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Old Feb 01, 2013, 01:02 PM
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What an asinine thing to say. Maybe one day, you'll face an armed intruder in the middle of the night and be thankful that your state allows you to stand your ground and defend your home and family. Oh wait, I forgot. You're in California.

You know very well that is not how the stand your ground laws work. And if you're making an orthogonal reference to the Trayvon Martin case, I'd encourage you to wait until the facts of the case come out in court before assuming anything.

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I think in some states, if the gunman at any point felt threatened by the bus driver, he would have been justified in killing the bus driver. It is reported that the bus driver forcibly tried to prevent the shooter from walking past him towards the children. I think the theory is that, even though the school bus driver was where he was entitled to be and it was the gunman who initiated the contact, as soon as the driver made physical contact, the shooter had the right to stand his ground.

So perhaps the shooter is guilty only of false imprisonment of a child.
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Old Feb 01, 2013, 01:09 PM
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What an asinine thing to say. Maybe one day, you'll face an armed intruder in the middle of the night and be thankful that your state allows you to stand your ground and defend your home and family. Oh wait, I forgot. You're in California.

You know very well that is not how the stand your ground laws work. And if you're making an orthogonal reference to the Trayvon Martin case, I'd encourage you to wait until the facts of the case come out in court before assuming anything.
He's pulling your chain, he was echoing the Zimmernan/Trayvon Martin case.
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Old Feb 01, 2013, 01:49 PM
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10,839 people died in drunk driving accidents last year.

More gun laws are needed now.
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Old Feb 01, 2013, 02:56 PM
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10,839 people died in drunk driving accidents last year.

More gun laws are needed now.
Car registration would fix this.



...oh wait
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Old Feb 01, 2013, 03:12 PM
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Car registration would fix this.



...oh wait
Drunk driving laws should address this ... oh wait ...
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Old Feb 01, 2013, 03:17 PM
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Drunk driving laws should address this ... oh wait ...
Liability insurance should address this.......oh wait.
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Old Feb 01, 2013, 03:30 PM
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Banning black mopeds should address this...... oh wait.
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Old Feb 01, 2013, 03:35 PM
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Banning black mopeds should address this...... oh wait.
Funny you mention this, I can remember when there was serious talk about limiting the horse power of motorcycles because you "could go just too fast".
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Old Feb 01, 2013, 04:32 PM
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10,839 people died in drunk driving accidents last year.
More gun laws are needed now.
Would these need to be regular drunk driving laws or should they be CFRs?
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Old Feb 01, 2013, 04:33 PM
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Well we all know that no one needs a car that goes faster than 70 mph.

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Old Feb 01, 2013, 04:34 PM
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I think in some states, if the gunman at any point felt threatened by the bus driver, he would have been justified in killing the bus driver. It is reported that the bus driver forcibly tried to prevent the shooter from walking past him towards the children. I think the theory is that, even though the school bus driver was where he was entitled to be and it was the gunman who initiated the contact, as soon as the driver made physical contact, the shooter had the right to stand his ground.

So perhaps the shooter is guilty only of false imprisonment of a child.
I'm buying more guns!
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Old Feb 01, 2013, 04:34 PM
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Well we all know that no one needs a car that goes faster than 70 mph.

Greg
Texas has areas that allow one to go up to 85 mph.
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Old Feb 01, 2013, 04:36 PM
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Well that won't do. You'll have to take and put a block under your pedal so it wont go that fast.

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Old Feb 04, 2013, 11:08 AM
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Certainly a couple of years ago I took the mandatory basic course required to obtain my CCW license I also had "common sense" going for me. Please don't make a statement like "upon questioning".
I asked:
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OK, since you opened the door on this, Sean:

What is your exact experience with using guns in a gunfight? Training as well as continuing education, Military? LEO? Special Ops? Harry Callahan movies?

Just trying to understand the breadth of experience behind the post.

--Bill
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I have had more than average training as a civilian, less than some, more than many.

But this Week Five discusion seems to have run it's course. Let's move on to Week SIX.

--Bill
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Old Feb 04, 2013, 11:40 AM
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Would these need to be regular drunk driving laws or should they be CFRs?
Well duh, CFRs of course. Only the feds can effectively regulate, just ask the current administration.
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