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Old Feb 10, 2013, 12:54 PM
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Richord that is the correct prop, http://www.neumotors.com/store/page3/page3.html scroll down on this page and you will find the Ice 75 or Ice 100 for a much cheaper price.
You ever order from them before? Those are some good prices. I did notice the HV controllers weren't the Ice2.
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Old Feb 10, 2013, 12:55 PM
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I guess by smoothe, I meant easy to fly or constantly on the sticks for 3D.

Sorry for the tons of questions, but I'm psyched now that I have placed my order!

Do you guys use a separate BEC with the Castle 75 ICE Lite and Motrofly?

I was going to use Gens Ace 2500 4S 30-40C range. With the Motrofly, should I up the mah and/or C rating to get the most out of it?

2500mah * 30C * .001 = 75 Amps (if I did that right). Wow, simply going to a 40C would provide 100 Amps?
I'm relatively new to 3D, just back in the game after a 6 year hiatus. I flew just about everything. yeah the foams and slower flying planes like the addiction, and EF edge are great and much easier at the start the slick starts to shine once you get a handle on 3D. I even posted my issues with it here but the guys helped me progress. I went through it all, PA, 3DHS, EF and more. All I am starting to fly now is my slick. It is really a convenient plane too, just the right size easy to take with you. But yeah it requires a little more stick input for 3D but for sport flying it is smooth as anything else.
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Old Feb 10, 2013, 02:15 PM
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Richord that is the correct prop, http://www.neumotors.com/store/page3/page3.html scroll down on this page and you will find the Ice 75 or Ice 100 for a much cheaper price.
Thanks. Was trying to order, but is says "Item is no longer in stock" when you try to add it to your cart.
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Old Feb 10, 2013, 02:47 PM
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Is everyone using full range RX's. I fly Spektrum and have an extra AR6100, but I'm tempted to get an AR7000 or other full range.
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I've used 3 of the $6 Orange 6 channel receivers with their $11 satellite. I've never had any trouble. Of course I don't have the nice resolution or frame rate. Maybe someday I'll graduate to the big boy's club and also get a Motrolfly and 5085's. That would be sweet!
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Old Feb 10, 2013, 03:10 PM
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This ESC was recommended by some to pair with the Motrolfly motor:
http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...FQWonQodwikA3w

Should I get the version with the heatsink?

I purchased the Hitec 5085 servos. I was going to just use the 5A BEC from the ESC and not install a separate one.

Is everyone using full range RX's. I fly Spektrum and have an extra AR6100, but I'm tempted to get an AR7000 or other full range.

This is the correct Xoar prop. i believe:
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXAPTT

Is there a need to modify the spinner to get this to fit?

I emailed subsonic planes and Ken responded with following (for those who may not already know):

"The total motor weight with all hardware is 7.5 ounces.
The light version with fiberglass mount is 6.7 ounces with all hardware."

"The light version removes the back plate of the motor and the x mount bolts directly to the bearing tube.
The fiberglass mount however is the same diameter as the outside of the motor so you have to run the mounting screws through the firewall backwards and put a nut on the front side of the X mount so reverse of what is normally done. Or you can put the screws through the x mount and then mount the X mount to the motor and use a ball end allen to tighten the screws."

"The light version has the same warranty as the basic version of the motor.
This motor was designed with 3D in mind.
The only motors not suitable for 3D are labeled as such."
#1...the Lite is fine for this plane, but the one with the heatsink is too...
#2.. Should be fine...or you can use the 10 amp Castle BEC
#3...I prefer full range
#4...That is the correct prop
#5...pretty much all spinners with the exception of the Extreme Flight spinner in this size will need to be modified

And what most guys do to mount the lightened motors is to remove the collar on the motor shaft at the back of the motor, and then pull the motor bell off. Then it is easy to mount the stator section. Then hold the collar in place with a pair of need nose pliers, then put the bell back on, making sure the shaft goes through the collar....be careful, the magnets are strong and you can get a finger pinched. Then tighten the setscrew(s), making sure to use some Loktite.

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Old Feb 10, 2013, 04:08 PM
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Thanks Steve. I will probably remove the can.

I noticed some motors have more slop if you pull the can from the back plate - prior to removing any screws.. Ranging from about 1/16" to 1/8" while some have virtually zero slop.

I will obviously check prior to disassembly, however, when installing the can, should I be aiming to get as little slop as possible or should it be 1/16", etc.
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Old Feb 10, 2013, 04:45 PM
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Ok, they are out of stock on one of the batteries I was considering.

What do you guys think of these:

http://www.hobbypartz.com/98p-35c-2700-4s1p-4444.html

Anyone running 3300mah packs that can report flight time and slow 3D with the added weight?

A club member at my field is flying the 51" with 2650mah 20C Zippy's and he has plenty of power with the Hacker A30-12XL.

The lightened version of the Motrolfly 4316-750 is 6.7oz vs. the Hackers 6.3oz.

I'm guessing the less than half oz. increase in the nose will be negligeable on this plane?

This from 3DHS's web site:

Product Information


Specifications
Wingspan: 51"
Length: 51"
Wing Area: 535 sq.in.
Weight (RTF): 55-63 oz.


Recommended Components
Motor: Hacker A30-12XL
ESC: Hacker X70 SBEC
Servos: Hitec HS-85MG
Battery: Thunder Power 4s 2200-2650mAh LiPo


Alternate Components
Motors: Extreme Flight Torque 2812T-720 / Hacker A30-10XL
ESCs: Extreme Flight Airboss 60A Elite
Extreme Flight Airboss 80A Elite
Castle Creations ICE-Lite 75A
Servos: N/A
Batteries: Thunder Power 3s 2600-3300mAh


Required to Complete
All Electronics (See Recommended Components)
Extensions: 1x 18" Standard
2x 4" Standard
1x 8" Standard

Hardware: 52mm-2" Electric Spinner
Dubro #672 Super Strength Servo Arms
APC 14x7E Propeller
or APC 15x6E Propeller

Adhesives: Thin CA, Medium CA

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The above recommended Hacker motor and Alternate Hacker motor have the same weight, so I was curious why the list 2 different lipo pack size ranges?
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Old Feb 10, 2013, 05:20 PM
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3 cells versus 4 cells.
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Old Feb 10, 2013, 05:33 PM
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You can fly the slick with a 4s 4k lipo if you want and it will still 3d with the best of them. I fly mine with a 4s 4k often. A 3300 isn't going to hinder a thing.
This is a great fling plane I'm sure you will enjoy it.
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Old Feb 10, 2013, 05:56 PM
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3 cells versus 4 cells.
Good catch - I should have seen that. After all, I did put it in bold!

Don't know how it would fly but I do have some 3S 2200mah 60C packs that I could always try, to change things up fromt time to time.

I guess I would just have to go up a size on the prop.
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Old Feb 10, 2013, 06:02 PM
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You can fly the slick with a 4s 4k lipo if you want and it will still 3d with the best of them. I fly mine with a 4s 4k often. A 3300 isn't going to hinder a thing.
This is a great fling plane I'm sure you will enjoy it.
Our field was very windy today, but as I was driving up I could see a plane in the distance doing rapid moves and I knew it was the one person who has the 51 Slick. He loves it and it's cool to watch the rapid moves. I can't wait to get mine in the air.
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Old Feb 10, 2013, 06:33 PM
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I persevered through the wind yesterday with my slick and it paid off. I learned to do harrier rolls that drop altitude. I don't know if I could pull it off without the wind though.
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Old Feb 10, 2013, 06:39 PM
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You can fly the slick with a 4s 4k lipo if you want and it will still 3d with the best of them. I fly mine with a 4s 4k often. A 3300 isn't going to hinder a thing.
This is a great fling plane I'm sure you will enjoy it.
What kind of flight time do you get with the 4000?
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Old Feb 10, 2013, 06:51 PM
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I land at 8 minutes.
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Old Feb 10, 2013, 07:49 PM
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I flew nothing but 4s 2200's on my first slick for most of its life. I got a 3000 and I could really feel a shift in the weight. I like the plane better with a little more weight as long as it is balanced well. If you get nose heavy it will start being real squirlly if you have a lot of energy and hit the elevator hard. So just keep that in mind as you maiden and adjust at first. If you go with a heavy pack you need to be sure the balance is good before you huck it super hard.
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