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Joined Aug 2012
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Please ask Pete about the sales numbers. He has to know somehow. If you have the numbers you can see the rate of faulty products. You can make a chart and see if quality is improving or not. If your quality does improve and you have the rate over some years and see what changes you made and what the effect was you will see what is good and what is not for your customers and your companies and product quality. Measuring this kind of info is a big part of quality improvement methods. If you go further as a company with this kind of things you end up with 6 sigma and LEAN or TPM Methods. Do this kind of research in your suppliers and own company and you will effectively get a streamlined system in partnership with the suppliers and customers. Anyhow. Good luck improving. See you around here.
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Joined Oct 2012
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u may lose money on the sale of a tv if u only looked at it from the standpoint of only selling tvs. but u do gain something from it. from installation of the tv or the sale of a new stereo system for the tv or just the advertisement of your store.
its just like grocery stores that sell milk for a loss. they sell the milk in the hopes that u will buy other products, which in most cases u do. in the "bigger picture" selling that tv or milk "at a loss" is incorrect. at the end of the day, u make money because of it. if that wasn't the case, unless it's a charity, the company would have to shut down. same goes for the LHS. they sell arfs at MSRP and i don't think they sell at a loss but the profit margin is not going to be that great. they will make money when you need parts or glue, batteries, radios etc. as for banana, they are all about volume. when you actually think about what's involved with actually selling an arf, it is amazing that they can sell a plane with motor,esc, servos for $100, $200 or even $300. |
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Last edited by MRrcRC; Oct 31, 2012 at 03:42 AM.
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Worth noting that BH does not actually make anything. They sell products produced by others in Asia. Even Blitzworks, their brand, is simply models that are usually avalable from other sources. The models are sold all over the world by numerous companies, not just here in the US by BH.
For instance, LX models makes the large 79' P-40 that you bought. If you want other 2m foam ARF warbirds, you need to go to the source, not the reseller. To answer your original question: no, not as bad as they sound. I have 11 models from BH. 9 had no issues at all. One had a bad ESC and a missing prop adapter. I had free replacement parts in three weeks. I had another model have issues with speed controls and servos. I had free replacement parts in four weeks. One issue with BH and the replacement of bad parts is that the parts orders are at a lower priority than the normal retail orders. A kit that does not need repacking and only needs an address label will get picked and packed quickly. A parts order that involves taking parts from a packed model often takes a week to fulfill. I have also noticed that when they have to repack a RTF model to convert it into an ARF model (to remove the Tx, Rx, battery and charger), the shipment is often delayed for a couple of days. BH would get a lot less criticism if they placed top priority on shipping missing or defective parts that have their customers grounded and unhappy. |
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Good afternoon pilots!
I would like to thank you all for the feedback. MRrcRC, please know that Banana Hobby is simply a retailer and is not a manufacturer. The manufacturer provides us with the models, their specs, and EDA's of models. TV does simply cost a bit more but it is a personal preference as to whether the pilot would like to obtain the TV version or the normal version. Thomas, we do notice the time duration regarding the parts and at this time, Banana Hobby is currently working on a solution to speed up the process. I do apologize for the time duration that you had experienced to get the parts mentioned. KCinNC, thank you for your support. Sincerely, Nancy |
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Nancy, thank you very much for listening and noting my comments.
Glad to hear BH is working on these issues. I think you will be much more respected as a supplier when you can fix defective and missing part problems in the prioritized, speedy and efficient way that places like Tower and Horizon do, now. I worked for a large mail order hobby shop from 1975 until 1980 ( the Hobby Market in Fort Worth, TX, well before the internet!) Our policy was that any order errors, missing parts or problems had first priority to be picked, packed and processed when they came to the warehouse. The folks waiting for their problems to be solved have already gone through an ordering process and have waited for their order already. It is imperative that a supplier note that and do all humanly possible to get the their missing or defective parts so the customer can enjoy their original purchase. I would give Banana Hobby a "B" grade for solving my problems in a decent but not great amount of time and that is certainly more than passing. However, I think you guys can get an "A" grade if you apply yourselves and give these issues the very, very timely attention they deserve. |
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I understand and absolutely agree with you. We will definitely do our best to improve in providing everyone the best service that we will be able to offer. We can understand the enthusiasm that each individual gets when receiving the aircraft purchased, as I, myself, would feel exactly the same way. The happier the customer, the better the sales! Sincerely, Nancy |
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Thank you for your feedback. I'm glad to hear that everything arrived in perfect condition. Make sure to test the electronics before assembling them. ![]() Sincerely, Nancy |
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I checked my inbox on here as well as my email. Unfortunately, I didn't receive a message from you. I'm sorry to hear that you have been waiting on 2 ESCs for months without an update. Can I have your order number so that I can look into the issue further please? ![]() Thank you in advance. Sincerely, Nancy |
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