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Old Jul 04, 2012, 10:57 AM
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With neck, shoulder, arm, wrist, and thumb pain (very deep and chronic with time it acute also) and at the same time regularly dropping things and having trouble doing fine task with hands and having a cervical x-ray indicating "Degenrative C-spine at the predominantly C5-6 level. No fracture or dislocation" be a reason for a Doctor to seek an MRI to see if there are problems stemming (pun also) from that area.

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PS have had a laminectomy for spinal stenosis at L4-S1 area with further lateral stenosis not at L3-L4 noted in the latest MRI for back and leg pain.
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Old Jul 04, 2012, 10:59 AM
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Sorry you are in pain Lyle. If I were you I would explore every avenue possible, and do it now before you are denied treatment under ocare.
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Old Jul 04, 2012, 11:01 AM
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Sorry you are in pain Lyle. If I were you I would explore every avenue possible, and do it now before you are denied treatment under ocare.
In process and am seeing a pain management Dr. now. Just curious if anyone else has experience such in the neck area.

Ocare is frightening to say the least.
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Old Jul 04, 2012, 11:16 AM
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With neck, shoulder, arm, wrist, and thumb pain (very deep and chronic with time it acute also) and at the same time regularly dropping things and having trouble doing fine task with hands and having a cervical x-ray indicating "Degenrative C-spine at the predominantly C5-6 level. No fracture or dislocation" be a reason for a Doctor to seek an MRI to see if there are problems stemming (pun also) from that area.

Thanks.

PS have had a laminectomy for spinal stenosis at L4-S1 area with further lateral stenosis not at L3-L4 noted in the latest MRI for back and leg pain.
IMHO, that depends upon what outcome you and the Dr. seek. I had C6-7 impingement causing severe chronic pain for over a month. The MRI showed a disc fragment that was likely pressing on the nerve bundle for the left arm. It reduced on its own without surgery, using a head traction device that I got for $0.25 at a yard sale.......

If you are questioning what your Dr. is doing, I do suggest you get a second opinion. If it is a Primary Care Dr, I would be speaking to him bluntly about why he isn't referring you to a neurologist already. Mine waited 2 weeks. During that time, I was getting about 3 hours of sleep each night, only because the combination of Vicodin and Halcyon allowed that much.
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Old Jul 04, 2012, 11:27 AM
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In process and am seeing a pain management Dr. now. Just curious if anyone else has experience such in the neck area.

Ocare is frightening to say the least.
I know a person with chronic neck pain and after years of this and that it is now managed with Botox injections. This is working where nothing else did. And, a lousy HMO is paying for it no questions!
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Old Jul 04, 2012, 12:25 PM
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Obama care? Oxymoron.
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Old Jul 04, 2012, 12:29 PM
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My lower back problems were cumulative and surfaced almost 3 years ago. 4 herniated discs with L5-S1 disc acting on the spinal column and sciatic nerve. Osteophyte formations at L2&3 added to the excitement.

MRI was a great tool to view the conditions. Have you looked at your latest MRI? I'd get the MRI for your neck. Make sure you get your own CD copy.
Use your copy of MRI to get a better second opinion. I feel for ya.
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Old Jul 04, 2012, 12:34 PM
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My lower back problems were cumulative and surfaced almost 3 years ago. 4 herniated discs with L5-S1 disc acting on the spinal column and sciatic nerve. Osteophyte formations at L2&3 added to the excitement.

MRI was a great tool to view the conditions. Have you looked at your latest MRI? I'd get the MRI for your neck. Make sure you get your own CD copy.
Use your copy of MRI to get a better second opinion. I feel for ya.
I am going to ask the Pain Management Dr. Tuesday. He is going to inject the L3-L4 area and see what happens. He did the X-ray and I think with the info from it he will do ask for an MRI. But I am going to ask him anyway.

The L3-L4 is literally a pain in the arse (
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Old Jul 04, 2012, 12:35 PM
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My lower back problems were cumulative and surfaced almost 3 years ago. 4 herniated discs with L5-S1 disc acting on the spinal column and sciatic nerve. Osteophyte formations at L2&3 added to the excitement.

MRI was a great tool to view the conditions. Have you looked at your latest MRI? I'd get the MRI for your neck. Make sure you get your own CD copy.
Use your copy of MRI to get a better second opinion. I feel for ya.
I had a right shoulder MRI (contrast) done in '98. I failed to get a copy. It is now purged from the system. I now get copies of EVERYTHING to keep myself. That is a fair bit this year.

Both shoulders are now titanium and plastic (left 01FEB, right 06JUN). I went to the hospital and got the records of those surgeries (interesting reading), and have mri/xray of lower back for l5 impingement, and xrays of right great toe showing severe DJD (no cartilage, very likely old fracture).


Okay, back to diagnosing LcJ.


Kidding aside, do ensure for yourself that you are getting adequate and accurate care. Do NOT be afraid to confront their opinions if you feel they are not listening to you. I have sometimes stated my opinion of what is happening to me to my doctors, had them ignore it, and then after several months, they arrive at the conclusion I already handed to them. Most of the other times, my conclusion is validated by the doctor in that one visit.



If Doctors really knew it all, they wouldn't call their business a 'practice.'
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Old Jul 04, 2012, 01:36 PM
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Well I don't know much about your backside, but I will hold out some hope your Dr. can do a little something for you.
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Old Jul 04, 2012, 01:52 PM
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Hey doc, I understand the prostate exam, but why are both your hands on my hips?

My brother went through something similar. He tried to live with it for a year, doc kept saying it was just muscle spasm. Our mother finally had enough when he called her, he was in soo much pain he was in tears. She brought him promptly to her doctor, who took one look and told him to go across the street to the hospital, and he would contact the surgeon. He at that point couldnt get off the exam table. A ambulance ride over, surgery the very next day. Blown disk, and a pretty severe one. He's fine now. Get more opinions!
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Old Jul 04, 2012, 01:54 PM
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Well I don't know much about your backside, but I will hold out some hope your Dr. can do a little something for you.
Well it starts in my back goes down the back, through the glutes then around the front of the leg through the knees and then down.

It will get better.....or not. I am just glad it wasn't messed up where the original surgery was. More problems in a different area is good news.
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Old Jul 04, 2012, 01:58 PM
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LcJ, my L5 presented on the front of the shin, to the outside of the tibia, and through to the second/third toes.

Check this chart for the different areas affected by L4 vs L5:

http://www.chiropracticposter.com/sclerotomes.html




Better image at this link: http://www.backpain-guide.com/Chapte...culopathy.html

That second link clearly shows the affected areas for the C/T/L level problem points.
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Old Jul 04, 2012, 06:11 PM
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I have some weirdness in my spine as well. Haven't been to get it checked out yet but I can feel my vertebrae move about in the lower portion and once in a while something will pinch. That's when weirdness kicks in along with pain, heat sensations and numbness in legs and arms. Typically left side. I used to think I was having mini strokes
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Old Jul 04, 2012, 06:26 PM
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Walk, exercise, join a gym, physical therapy, or whatever it takes to stay off chronic pain meds. They are bad news.
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