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Old Feb 05, 2016, 04:33 PM
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No, This is not an ATC issue. The 30 nm radius around that airport is to protect the Capital of the US from terrorists. (yeah I know, crazy right!) It was not meant to stop model aircraft from flying but it was very badly worded and well lawyers got involved and now we are waiting for a waiver to be issued. Rumor is that could happen any day.
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Old Feb 05, 2016, 05:07 PM
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Cf plate , ca, gorilla and wood glue... i tried everything.

I had the motor box kit but i didn't want to mess the plane up, now there's no strength in it, the area is wonky and it came to a point that the plane needed surgery.

This was before i rip everything out.
At some point if you have a motor box kit then it may be best to just replace that in its entirety. Generally take out the guts that the MB replaces and you just open the outer sides up put guts in and glue together. The outside of the plane they do not include so some fab required there. Over generalization I know. Just got done on the 74 and just doing the whole thing was much easier than messing with it. I know, there are many opinions on this but.... This plane is only $179 here in us so not sure how much over seas. Something to consider. Not that I would normally condone the whole buying new one every time but this is one of the cheaper airframes. Too much is done where many can be fixed with some time and thrown away.
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Old Feb 05, 2016, 05:41 PM
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At some point if you have a motor box kit then it may be best to just replace that in its entirety. Generally take out the guts that the MB replaces and you just open the outer sides up put guts in and glue together. The outside of the plane they do not include so some fab required there. Over generalization I know. Just got done on the 74 and just doing the whole thing was much easier than messing with it. I know, there are many opinions on this but.... This plane is only $179 here in us so not sure how much over seas. Something to consider. Not that I would normally condone the whole buying new one every time but this is one of the cheaper airframes. Too much is done where many can be fixed with some time and thrown away.
Yea but the issue is the two last struts/formers that I have asked for dimensions are not included in the MB kit. No way im throwing away a good airframe. My little extra is special..
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Old Feb 05, 2016, 10:07 PM
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ckleanth, based on the drawing you have posted I get 44mm including the tab for the side dimension. Tab is 2mm.

I get approximately 96mm for the width of the bottom of the middle strut. My plane is together so I measured the bottom in front of the main gear and subtracted 4mm.
thanks.

thanks all. I now have everything I need
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Old Feb 06, 2016, 10:39 AM
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By the way i copied the landing gear plate from the motor box kit and created a drawing as well as the two rear formers that are not included in the MB kit. Im hoping that the cnc laser cuter people can cut the G10 epoxy resin plate so next week i'm hoping that i will be making them (fingers crossed have them by friday).
Question is does anyone also want these to cut more? Will send them at whatever it cost me (don't think it will be more than 10 but i will confirm this) plus the postage..
PM / let me know if you want any.

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Old Feb 06, 2016, 10:59 AM
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Ck, consider using 1/4" ply like Eagle2Nitro did when he rebuilt his formers on his Edge
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...ostcount=11852
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Old Feb 06, 2016, 11:15 AM
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Ck, consider using 1/4" ply like Eagle2Nitro did when he rebuilt his formers on his Edge
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...ostcount=11852
Cheers. I copied the original pattern and that is 3mm ply, this needs to be this thick to fit in the battery tray otherwise stuff will need filing etc. I made the lightening holes smaller to give it a bit more strength and consider a few alternative options how the LG plate connects in the rear former (the original design uses 3 tabs that go into slots in the former.
The problem i want to minimise weight penalty and second if i make it ultra stiff any impact will transfer to the fuse and effectively generate more damage. Im happy if one gets it wrong to just change the LG plate and the formers; its realy easy to change them especially now that i can cut the formers and keep spares.
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Old Feb 11, 2016, 02:28 PM
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Placed an order today for the Extra and a few 5070's. I've never flown this one and I'm sure it's going to be a blast, just as the other 48's. This will also be the first 48 I'll have flown without a Motrofly and 14x7 up front. It will be interesting to see the difference between the two power systems.
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Old Feb 11, 2016, 02:44 PM
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Yea but the issue is the two last struts/formers that I have asked for dimensions are not included in the MB kit. No way im throwing away a good airframe. My little extra is special..
Oh Yeh I hear you and i know that stuff is not included. Although this plane is half the size, but similar process, I just redid my 74 edge and I peeled the outside back, this stuff is not included in MB kit, replaced the guts with the MB kit and then put back together. No man i applaud you for doing that. It seems that everyone just throws away good planes that only need a number of hours of work and get new ones. Still learning the repair process stuff as I am not as fast and maybe not as good as you guys that have been doing it so I enjoy hearing how your doing it.
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I was just looking at the manual, does the extra really come with EZ connectors, instead of double ball links, or is the manual just outdated?
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Mine came with ball links. A few bits of manual are out of date.
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I was just looking at the manual, does the extra really come with EZ connectors, instead of double ball links, or is the manual just outdated?
Yep the manual is outdated. All the EF 48s come with ball links.
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