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Old Oct 21, 2011, 09:10 PM
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Old Oct 21, 2011, 09:12 PM
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It's fair to say that I should read the first pages before of asking questions (which I did by the way), but also my post should have been read equally carefully...... and not everyone did.... so please chill out a tad before you shoot from the hip, thanks.

I did read on the very first page that the better prop is a TGS 6x4E prop, in fact I specifically mentioned it in my question. What I did not understand on the first page is the following:

"7. Prop Adapter - Use a 2.3mm for V1 & V2 BL."

With a Google a search I find very different adapters and I doubt that they would all be good:

example: http://www.bphobbies.com/view.asp?id...03&pid=V748000

Vs http://www.amazon.com/Maxx-Adapter-2.../dp/B001AEUZHS

Vs the collet adaptors that come with the HK prop (aeronca, thanks for the link)

So that's why I wrote "From what I understand to get started I should get (...) a TGS 6x4E prop (and adapter? I am unfamiliar with how to connect airplane props)" (...)If necessary I can find the tubes and probably the horns on my own, but I have no idea what parts to order for the prop. "

You see? I asked which parts "for " the prop, not "which prop..."

So I am still hoping that someone kindly answers this original question, which does not require hundreds of lines/pages (whatever that means...) to answer.... thanks



http://www.rcdude.com/servlet/the-15...Adapter/Detail
http://www.e-fliterc.com/Products/De...rodID=EFLM1921
http://www.hobby-lobby.com/collet_pr..._1196_prd1.htm
http://www.toysonics.com/toysonics-a...-to-4.7mm.html
http://www.bphobbies.com/view.asp?id...03&pid=V748000
http://www.maxxprod.com/mpi/mpi-291.html
http://www.shop.dennishobbies.com/Bu...400-ACC325.htm
http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...peller-Adapter
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...WGSZGRECR01YV5
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...WGSZGRECR01YV5
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...WGSZGRECR01YV5
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=....c0.m270.l1313
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Old Oct 21, 2011, 09:21 PM
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Look at it this way. The only way it takes more power is if you throttle up to get back faster. The plane will be flying 20-30mph airspeed. The wind will be 15mph or less. You will not want to fly in 20mph wind or better. (no mater what some claim to have done.) The plane will come back at the same throttle setting you used heading down wind.
The point is flying into the wind doesn't use more power unless you throttle up causing it to use more. You caused the power consumption to increase, not the wind.
If we do go to war on this I want to wear the blue helmet, you can wear the grey. I'll meet you at Gettysburg, PA.
and further more..... What is your first name?
Gene, if you're flying a plane straight away from you at 10mph GROUND speed with a 15mph direct tailwind, and don't touch the throttle, what happens when you turn the plane directly back towards you?
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Old Oct 21, 2011, 09:26 PM
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Gene, if you're flying a plane straight away from you at 10mph GROUND speed with a 15mph direct tailwind, and don't touch the throttle, what happens when you turn the plane directly back towards you?
It can't happen since you can't fly with -5 airspeed.

In such a scenario the plane would be way under it's stall speed and would drop like a rock long before turning was a issue.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stall_%28flight%29
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Old Oct 21, 2011, 10:21 PM
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Gene, if you're flying a plane straight away from you at 10mph GROUND speed with a 15mph direct tailwind, and don't touch the throttle, what happens when you turn the plane directly back towards you?
If you are considering only ground speed, the airplane is going away from you at -5mph. If you had an ASI on the plane, it would read 10mph and an observer in the plane would be watching you go away from him at -5mph. All of this, of course, assumes that you have a plane that will fly at 10mph (like a slow stick).
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Old Oct 21, 2011, 10:50 PM
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Gene, if you're flying a plane in a 90 15mph crosswind at 10mph GROUND speed, don't touch the throttle, and turn it directly into that 15mph wind, what happens to the airplane?
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Old Oct 21, 2011, 10:55 PM
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Gene, if you're flying a plane in a 90 15mph crosswind at 10mph GROUND speed, don't touch the throttle, and turn it directly into that 15mph wind, what happens to the airplane?
The question is not specific enough. It depend if part of that 10mph ground speed has a sideways component, meaning you are being swept along with the wind. Or, are you crabbing against the wind and keeping a ground trajectory that is 90 degrees to the wind. Different scenarios and different answers.

The first scenario really isn't possible, as you are doing at least 15 mph ground speed, even if you are in a hover.

If you mean the latter scenario, the plane is ALREADY turned 56 degrees into the wind to crab against the 15mph wind speed. In this scenario your TAS would be 18 mph. As you turned into the wind your 10mph ground speed vector would shift 90 degrees and your ground speed would reduce to 3 mph and the plane would be none the wiser, having made a constant speed 34 degree turn. I can detail the math if desired.

EDIT: BTW, I know I'm not Gene. But it is an interesting scenario to think about.

EDIT EDIT: There, I think THAT's it. As I say... interesting scenario.
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Old Oct 22, 2011, 12:19 AM
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If anyone is interested, my ARF SS from BH came with a 2.3mm collet-style prop adapter. I had already purchased an adapter from headsuprc, and I think either will work on my TGS 6x4. The stock adapter is significantly larger and heavier than the one from headsuprc.

The stock prop also seems to be of better quality than what was included with previous iterations of the SS. The stock spar also appears thicker than what I've seen in pictures here. I can post some shots of my kit while it's still in pieces if anyone is interested.
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Old Oct 22, 2011, 12:23 AM
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SH so much for your buddy codes You get me all excited and then nothing. As a result of your actions and Gene's wanting to finish off his pool I just cannot afford this unit any more

Gene, I dont know about the others but I will give you 1 month to finish off your pool after which time its back to normal use of your card, this hobby is identical to a woman, they both suck you in
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Old Oct 22, 2011, 12:25 AM
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If anyone is interested, my ARF SS from BH came with a 2.3mm collet-style prop adapter. I had already purchased an adapter from headsuprc, and I think either will work on my TGS 6x4. The stock adapter is significantly larger and heavier than the one from headsuprc.

The stock prop also seems to be of better quality than what was included with previous iterations of the SS. The stock spar also appears thicker than what I've seen in pictures here. I can post some shots of my kit while it's still in pieces if anyone is interested.
If this was a V3 SkyS from BH then please post pictures.
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Old Oct 22, 2011, 12:32 AM
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Do you have the link to this? I would search through the last pages but I'm feeling lazy right now.
Try this one http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...dProduct=11780
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Old Oct 22, 2011, 12:51 AM
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Can we get off this 666 page as it is scary.
FP what utter rubbish. I can't believe that an intelligent man like you believes in this supersticious hoo-ha. Just as well it wasn't Friday the 13th.
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Old Oct 22, 2011, 01:00 AM
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10,000th post! Wahoo! I was waiting for that if you couldn't tell...
Well done HFB, your medal is in the mail

On a serious note, I think Congratulations are in order for AJ the man that set up this thread and through his diligent efforts created one of the best threads on RCG. Well done AJ, over 10000 posts and going strong.
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Old Oct 22, 2011, 01:21 AM
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Gyro installation

I have several of the Esky rate gyros but this pair came out of a Harbor Freight Easy Star clone which was a real piece of junk. So, the Skysurfer with the MicroDan is now sporting gyros on the elevator and ailerons. With the HXT900 analog servos 30% gain is the max. Low medium temp hot glue mounts them to the fuselage. Test flight with gyros is tomorrow, time permitting.
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Old Oct 22, 2011, 02:04 AM
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I think it is in fact a v3. I requested a clear canopy with my ARF and it seems like they just sent me an unassembled v3. I'll post pics tomorrow when I'm not dead tired.
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