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Old Feb 02, 2012, 09:03 PM
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Anyone else get an e-mail from HH today? The Spitfire is UM, only 15" wingspan.

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Old Feb 02, 2012, 09:11 PM
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Regarding flying speeds - the CC's wing-loading is 5.5 oz/sq ft, as compared to the Beast 3D @ 4.36 oz/sq ft & the Sbach @ 5.21 oz/sq ft. The CC aught to slow down fairly well - especially with a notch or two of flaps.

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Old Feb 02, 2012, 09:23 PM
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The wingspan on the Zero is only 25", the CC wingspan is 24"

I wish HH would have imported the Minium Kysosho Zero instead of the Arium Zero.

The Arium size makes the most sense for HH since the 1S zero has 2g servos and spectrum doesn't have a 1S RX/ESC combo to plug in.
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Old Feb 02, 2012, 09:23 PM
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Joel,

The CC has higher wing loading than the Beast and the Sbach?

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Old Feb 02, 2012, 09:29 PM
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i got the spitfire email today. not real happy. i was hoping for a light weight plane. 49 grams is a little heavy for me, for a single. i dont like gyros, unless im flying in a wind storm. then it might be fun. it would have been ordered if it had an ar6400. i dont like hand outs, ( and a gyro is a hand out. not for me)
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Old Feb 03, 2012, 06:00 AM
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i got the spitfire email today. not real happy. i was hoping for a light weight plane. 49 grams is a little heavy for me, for a single. i dont like gyros, unless im flying in a wind storm. then it might be fun. it would have been ordered if it had an ar6400. i dont like hand outs, ( and a gyro is a hand out. not for me)
Have you flown the Beast 3D? All I can tell you is that when I fly it, I don't feel the gyro... I could be flying my old Beast if I didn't knew it! The biggest difference between my old Beast and the new one, is when I land, and check how strong the wind was. With the new Beast, I always jump when I discover that there was that much wind!

I suspect it will be the same with the Spitfire... I still fly my good old Mustangs (I have two!) everynow and then and would really like the AS3X tech in them now. If the gyro does the same thing to the Spitfire than on my Beast 3D, it will look a lot more scale since it won't be bullied around by the smallest wind.
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Old Feb 03, 2012, 10:09 AM
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i got the spitfire email today. not real happy. i was hoping for a light weight plane. 49 grams is a little heavy for me, for a single. i dont like gyros, unless im flying in a wind storm. then it might be fun. it would have been ordered if it had an ar6400. i dont like hand outs, ( and a gyro is a hand out. not for me)
Then don't buy one. Stick with your escapements & Galloping Ghost setups, since you appear to regard advancements in the hobby as nothing but "handouts".

Since you dislike "handouts" so much, I expect that your car has a manual transmission, manual brakes, steering by armstrong, no anti-lock brakes, no power windows, no power door locks, and no A/C? But you're on the 'net? Surely, you must dislike computers - so why are you online? After all - using your logic, the technologies above are simply "handouts".

Are all of your planes scratch-builds? Using your logic - kits & ARFs are also "handouts". I hope you don't have a computer tx with mixing, rates, and expo. After all - model memories, rates, expo, and mixing are nothing but "handouts".

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Old Feb 03, 2012, 10:21 AM
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I can't for the life of me figure out why so many people are against this technology. Afterall, without it, these sized planes don't really fly that scale. Unstabilized, they just flitter and get banged around by any kind of breeze, making the flight more of a chore than a pastime.The problem is, the body of air mass we're flying them in isn't scale to the airplane, if that makes any sense. Average wind speed in reference to a UM is MUCH faster, compared to say, a larger model or a full scale plane. They don't seem to generate lift as efficiently either. Compare the air mass/small model relationship to how if you put a scale model boat in water, the water droplets and wake look large, and unscale. Also, with every perpendicular ripple the boat quickly rocks back and forth in an unscale fashion. Well, this technology lets us fly tiny aircraft in a scale manner in unscale air. It's not really a skill thing, it just makes flying less annoying and chore- like, and more realistic. You can still crash, it won't save you from dumb thumbs!
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Old Feb 03, 2012, 10:37 AM
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Bring on the gyro on this little guy. I fly just about every day, including days I probably shouldn't fly my smaller birds because of wind. Most of the damage on my smaller planes, the Micros and such, has come from landing with wind on account of only being able to come in for a landing just a couple ways. If this gyro equipped plane makes it a little safer and keeps me in the air on days that would be marginal or bad for the little guys, then bring it on!
I've got an Eflite p-40 300 that's essentially the same size and with the slower flight envelope of the Cub, and what, Flaps?! This thing shoudln't really need a field, but any old sized park with a little bit of pavement somewheres for a landing strip. This thing is gonna be fun.
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Old Feb 03, 2012, 10:38 AM
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surprised they didn't put as3x in the zero to be honest, why would they put it in a high wing 25" ws plane but not a 25" warbird?
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Old Feb 03, 2012, 10:48 AM
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surprised they didn't put as3x in the zero to be honest, why would they put it in a high wing 25" ws plane but not a 24" warbird?
Simply because they want to lower their receiver inventory first! If they start selling a 63XX receiver with AS3X, they won't sell the old receivers anymore. I suspect that soon we will see AR600 to AR8000 with this technology... After all the newer Beast (not the airplane, the receiver) is almost there. They have to implement it, it would increase the Spektrum market over other receivers if they do!
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Old Feb 03, 2012, 10:50 AM
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Go to your local Air Force base, and try telling the F-16 jockeys that they aren't real pilots doing real flying, because they use that "handout" fly-by-wire technology.

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Old Feb 03, 2012, 10:52 AM
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Simply because they want to lower their receiver inventory first! If they start selling a 63XX receiver with AS3X, they won't sell the old receivers anymore. I suspect that soon we will see AR600 to AR8000 with this technology... After all the newer Beast (not the airplane, the receiver) is almost there. They have to implement it, it would increase the Spektrum market over other receivers if they do!
sounds logical, but I wonder if it's just a bit because the Zero, like other warbirds that size do more slicing thru the breezes than a slower hi-winged type plane like this Cub?
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Old Feb 03, 2012, 11:13 AM
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Then don't buy one. ...
Owwww...nasty . Even a Smiley Face can't disguise that.

Glad to know I'm not the only one who remembers escapements (and blipping).

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Old Feb 03, 2012, 11:15 AM
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Wow! I was just looking at the carbon cub website 2 days ago. Pretty cool what they are doing remaking the cubs.

For $134K you can buy one built.
Let's go in for a group buy. : )
it seems inflation is a real b....
Pricing for 2012 Carbon Cub SS ready-to-fly with the standard features: $163,280
http://www.cubcrafters.com/carboncubss/howtobuy

really neat planes though, but well above my pay grade
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