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Old Jun 15, 2011, 11:39 PM
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Cheese,

The key here is that you noticed an increase in control authority, which proves that sealing the gaps helped enough to be noticeable. Given this, it is quite likely that top speed is also up a bit.

Joel
That's good(would be nice if someone to measure the speed of it, all I need is a video of the XP doing high speed runs, right?). I sealed the micro p-51 a few days after the XP. I remounted the p-51 motor mount (was vibrating while running), and the speed increased enough to be noticed. Now it doesn't feel underpowered any more, feels crisp and clean.
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Old Jun 16, 2011, 03:43 PM
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Impressive that you were able to maiden this successfully as your first plane! My maiden wasn't so lucky and I had three other planes before this one!

If you like this plane then you should consider the UMX Beast - it's by far my favorite plane.
Well I went through a lot of helis myself, so sadly I'm not a natural at rc flying. The Beast is nice; one of my friends at the field has one. But want to keep the # of planes to a minimum to appease the wife. So thinking about the F-27Q, since it's fast, low cost to repair, parts are available, lots of users, can glide slow if needed. I really like the GP Evader EDF (looks awesome and fast) but support for parts is weak, and will require perfect landings, and needs to be flown fast or it'll stall.

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Congrats on maidening your first plane! Your sim-time definitely paid off!

The XP is a lot of fun, and it can handle a surprising amount of wind - provided the pilot has the skills. I liked the XP so much, I bought three of 'em. The Stryker Q does look interesting. I've been thinking about getting one - just for the times I feel the need for speed. Turnerm mentioned the UMX Beast. I also have a pair of those. It is an amazing UM. it's definitely my favorite UM plane, and I have a fair number of them. It flies much 'bigger' than it is - more like a large-scale plane. In heli terms, it would be like having a 250 that flies as smooth & 'big' as a 550. Another plane to look at is the soon-to-be-released UMX Sbach. The Sbach will outperform the Beast in most categories, and it will also be more robust - due to the much thicker wing. Handling will be closer to that of the XP than the Beast.

Just as it is with helis - bigger flies better. If you can fly the XP well, you should have no trouble flying unlimited aerobatic planes in any scale.

Joel
Yea the Phoenix sim helped a lot for a successful maiden. I agree 100% the bigger the more stable. The analogy with the 250 and 550 was perfect, lol - I have both and what a difference in stability. I'll have to check out the sbach too, thanks
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Old Jun 17, 2011, 12:48 AM
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Gett'n the hang of it!!

Several batteries through the XP now. She is fun! Makes the T28 seem kind of tame. No crashes. Fly'n Hyperion 240s and 180s made by RCBabbell...I use Rogers foam mount system.
Putting time on the XP in order to feel more confident with the SBACH
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Old Jun 17, 2011, 10:14 AM
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Several batteries through the XP now. She is fun! Makes the T28 seem kind of tame. No crashes. Fly'n Hyperion 240s and 180s made by RCBabbell...I use Rogers foam mount system.
Putting time on the XP in order to feel more confident with the SBACH
Glad you're enjoying it. I find that once you get used to the XP it's really quite easy to fly. It took me some time to get teh CG right but after that the thing flew effortlessly.

If you enjoy the XP then keep your eye on the UMX Beast. The Sbach, as you mentioned, is probably going to be as good as (or dare I say better than) the Beast and I'll be picking one up as soon as it hits my LHS!
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Old Jun 18, 2011, 12:09 AM
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Just ordered one of these from eBay, advertised as new with two extra batts and a full warranty for $100 shipped.

I tried out big planes for a bit and had gotten rid of most of my micros, but I think I'm going back to micros. Big planes are so much more intimidating to fly- with these micros you can swoop down inches from the ground and know that most likely a crash will do little to no damage. And the bigger planes couldn't even handle more wind than the original Sukhoi. Plus, now I'm off to college, and I think these micros will be a better fit for a college dorm.

Looking forward to try this "better" Sukhoi considering how much I enjoyed my original.
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Old Jun 18, 2011, 01:54 AM
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Just ordered one of these from eBay, advertised as new with two extra batts and a full warranty for $100 shipped.

I tried out big planes for a bit and had gotten rid of most of my micros, but I think I'm going back to micros. Big planes are so much more intimidating to fly- with these micros you can swoop down inches from the ground and know that most likely a crash will do little to no damage. And the bigger planes couldn't even handle more wind than the original Sukhoi. Plus, now I'm off to college, and I think these micros will be a better fit for a college dorm.

Looking forward to try this "better" Sukhoi considering how much I enjoyed my original.
Oh, you'll like the sukhoi XP. It is a lot better than the sukhoi (EDIT)! More power, control, longer throws, better parts, more compact foam, and lots of other things.
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Old Jun 18, 2011, 07:43 AM
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Oh, you'll like the sukhoi XP. It is a lot better than the sukhoi xp!
We all know you meant the old Sukhoi, but still, have to tease you a bit.... How could the XP be better than the XP?
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Old Jun 18, 2011, 08:51 AM
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We all know you meant the old Sukhoi, but still, have to tease you a bit.... How could the XP be better than the XP?
Newer XP models are better than the old one J/K sure he meant the XP is better than the M
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Old Jun 18, 2011, 01:35 PM
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We all know you meant the old Sukhoi, but still, have to tease you a bit.... How could the XP be better than the XP?
Oh, haha whoops! Was used to typing sukhoi xp too much. The newer ones might have a better motor than the older ones...
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Old Jun 18, 2011, 05:47 PM
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Oh, haha whoops! Was used to typing sukhoi xp too much. The newer ones might have a better motor than the older ones...
Mine doesn't. I was flying XP #3 from my deck when you commented that the motor sounded sick. Flew her again maybe a week later. She's now on the SX transplant short-list...

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Old Jun 18, 2011, 05:52 PM
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Mine doesn't. I was flying XP #3 from my deck when you commented that the motor sounded sick. Flew her again maybe a week later. She's now on the SX transplant short-list...

Joel
Wow how do you have so much time to fly all those airplanes? I only have 3 (XP, Micro mustang, scratch built profile high wing) and they are alread quite a handful!
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Old Jun 18, 2011, 11:03 PM
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Just ordered one of these from eBay, advertised as new with two extra batts and a full warranty for $100 shipped.

I tried out big planes for a bit and had gotten rid of most of my micros, but I think I'm going back to micros. Big planes are so much more intimidating to fly- with these micros you can swoop down inches from the ground and know that most likely a crash will do little to no damage. And the bigger planes couldn't even handle more wind than the original Sukhoi. Plus, now I'm off to college, and I think these micros will be a better fit for a college dorm.

Looking forward to try this "better" Sukhoi considering how much I enjoyed my original.
You maybe aware of the "upgrades", but just in case. Good batteries, such as Hyperion or Thunder Power 160s are a noticeable improvement over the e-flites, and have longer flight times. The Hyperion 180 flat pack are even better with more punch and longer flight times. The GWS 5043 prop makes a big difference with the Hyperion and Thunder Power batteries, but really shines with the 180.

FYI if you go with the GWS prop, you will probably need to balance the prop and adapter. It is easiest to do on the plane by adding strips of clear tape to the backside of the prop.

Also the Night Vapor can be cool for college and inside an open space of a dorm. I have flown for 10-15 min on the stock motor at half to full throttle. For $10 swap in the J3 cub motor and it will pull vertical and sort of sustain inverted flight with the 160 sized batteries mentioned above. Move everything to max throws and it will pull a 2.5 foot diameter loop with a full throttle burst.

The mSR would be fun in a dorm, and likes the Thunder Power 160's.
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Old Jun 19, 2011, 12:11 AM
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Wow how do you have so much time to fly all those airplanes? I only have 3 (XP, Micro mustang, scratch built profile high wing) and they are alread quite a handful!
Cheese,

Being a single guy has a lot to do with it.

I enjoy variety & a challenge, so I usually have planes in my hangar that fly very differently from each other. I want to try high-performance powered sailplanes next. Let's see what's in the hangar at the moment....

'Planks':

(2) original UM Sukhois (one flyable)
(3) XPs (two flyable)
(2) UMX Beasts (one flyable)
(1) UMX Sbach (soon, I hope!)
(1) UM F4U
(1) UM Mossie
(1) UM Cub
(1) UM Champ
(1) Vapor
(1) Hobby Lobby Wingo
(1) PA Extra 260 48" w/IPAs system
(1) 72" Ace Bingo w/Saito .91 4-stroke
(1) 60-size Top Flite Jug original kit w/flaps, air retracts & YS .91 supercharged, fuel-injected 4-stroke (needs new retracts & cowl)
(1) 1/4-scale Dynaflite Super Cub w/Fowler flaps & OS 160 flat-twin 4-stroke (engine needs major overhaul)
(1) 40-size Great Planes Sportster w/OS .46 SF-P two-stroke
(1) 80" Scorpio Taurus Plus mid-wing w/Fowler slotted flaps/airbrakes and LE stall-strips (in the bones, waiting to be covered, will be powered by a Saito FG-30 or FG-36 gasoline 4-stroke)


'Earth-repellers':

(1) mCX
(1) mSR
(1) BSR
(1) mCP X

I can't recall ever having them all flight-worthy at the same time, though.

Joel
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Old Jun 19, 2011, 02:13 AM
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You maybe aware of the "upgrades", but just in case. Good batteries, such as Hyperion or Thunder Power 160s are a noticeable improvement over the e-flites, and have longer flight times. The Hyperion 180 flat pack are even better with more punch and longer flight times. The GWS 5043 prop makes a big difference with the Hyperion and Thunder Power batteries, but really shines with the 180.

FYI if you go with the GWS prop, you will probably need to balance the prop and adapter. It is easiest to do on the plane by adding strips of clear tape to the backside of the prop.

Also the Night Vapor can be cool for college and inside an open space of a dorm. I have flown for 10-15 min on the stock motor at half to full throttle. For $10 swap in the J3 cub motor and it will pull vertical and sort of sustain inverted flight with the 160 sized batteries mentioned above. Move everything to max throws and it will pull a 2.5 foot diameter loop with a full throttle burst.

The mSR would be fun in a dorm, and likes the Thunder Power 160's.
Thanks for the tips. I've owned the original Vapor but it was to fragile for me. I also flew my dad's friend's MSR which worked nicely, but I'm not much of a helicopter person. Of all the UM's, I liked the Sukhoi most because of its durability and wind handling ability. It's amazing how much wind the little thing could take.

I used the 240mah Hyperion on the Mustang, and they were awesome, I got 15 minutes a flight and a lot more power. I also switched my Sukhoi out to the 5043 since the stock prop was terrible. Going to see how the XP one works before changing it out.
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Old Jun 19, 2011, 03:56 PM
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Just bought the SU-26xp Friday afternoon and have about 15 batteries on it so far. Great little bird and my first aerobatic. So far I love it I probably have more time inverted in this thing than everything else I have owned combined. I will attempt to read through this entire thread before asking any stupid questions or for any tips. I setup the dual rates and expo as suggested in the manual and that seems to work great for me at this point.
First flight was with the battery all the way forward like I do with my UM T-28 was not much fun. Second flight was with battery about halfway back and much better. The 3rd flight I went to high rates and scooted the battery all the way back and that worked so well I have stuck with that setup since. I have 8 new E-flite 150's and a 3 Tenergy 160's to fly with so far. I also have a prop saver and a GWS 5043 prop I bought for the little Trojan but never installed to try on the xp some time soon.
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