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Old Feb 21, 2014, 01:44 PM
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Why is there no decent kits available in Australia

Hi all.

If you guys are anything like me, over the years of flying I have established quite a parts collection from planes that I have managed to crash from time to time (we all have them at some stage).

I have been looking for airframe kits so that I can use the parts that I have to build a few more rc aircraft and not have all the parts collecting dust in my garage.

I can't find any decent airframes or kits at a decent price available in Australia, and when I do find one, I can get a PNP version of that rc aircraft for cheaper. It is really nicking me off. You look at websites in the US, and often they have kits available as well as PNP.

Why don't our suppliers stock airframes/kits as well as PNP/ARF? I know we are a smaller market, but I am sure there is many of us here who have the same issue.

If anyone does know a good source of airframes/kits down here, let me know. I am into warbirds and jets more than FPV or gliders.

Cheers, MP.
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Old Feb 21, 2014, 01:50 PM
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and when I do fine one, I can get a PNP version of that rc aircraft for cheaper.

Cheers, MP.
that's the problem right there. So then you have to add all the extra $tuff to build it so all but the most hardcore builder just gives up and buys the ready built one. Why stock something that will only ever be sold to a niche within a niche in the hobby world......unfortunately.

What about that aussie guy who has some pretty neat laser cut kits? Can't think of his name but he pops up in here from time to time with a special or two.
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Old Feb 21, 2014, 05:28 PM
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This would be him right here.

http://www.lasercutkits.com.au/

For what it's worth I feel your pain Merlin, I am also one of the REAL KIT (not pre fab 'kit' ) builders that is also frustrated by the way the market has changed. If you see something OS you want we may be able to team up and split the postage? The pylon racer in my avatar was from a Kit I imported from the Netherlands, same postage for two planes, so I imported two and sold one!

Sux to be different.
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Old Feb 21, 2014, 05:40 PM
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I have gone back to scratch building, you can build what you like , how you like ...simples!
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Old Feb 21, 2014, 05:45 PM
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Most dont want to pay for kits here, be it foam or wood or glass. Its hard to get lots of little things here now due to the hobby population purchasing OS or online but it will eventually go back, prices will rise a lot in the coming years, Chinese factories are finding it hard to get workers now as people stay in their cities or towns, wages are climbing rapidly, I reckon its a good time to stock up on chinese kits while the $$ is still hovering around 90c and China is still fairly cheap!
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Old Feb 21, 2014, 08:25 PM
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Building from plans is not that much harder than building from a kit. It also gives you the option to make changes easily. You can have a plan printed for a couple of dollars at an Office works.

The other option is to buy short kits from OS as they tend to pack up small & light so shipping isn't too bad & you can buy the big stuff like spars etc locally.

As more people build CNC routers/ cutters there will be more opportunity for cheap short kits available locally.

I'm building a couple of warbirds from plans now.
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2073947

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Old Feb 21, 2014, 09:39 PM
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I agree, I enjoy building equally as flying, I print up A4 sheets and tape them together works great. I am currently building an ME 109 E scaled up a little from 1/2A plans to carry a 46 engine . Sadly with the emergence of the ARF ,s the craft of building is starting to disapear when once if you wanted a flying model you would have to build it yourself. ......convenient progress I guess.
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Old Feb 22, 2014, 03:01 AM
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There are some good kits here eg http://www.minihquad.com/ are world class quad frames and http://offtheedge.com.au/page.php?id=1 and http://www.southernsailplanes.com.au/ are great sailplane kits.
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Old Feb 22, 2014, 04:03 AM
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The term 'KIT' has been used flippantly in the last few years by many exporters, and it now seems to have a different inferred meaning? The term KIT used to mean something you have to build, cover and fit with all running gear, using glues and coverings, as well as sweat and toil..

The terms used can be confusing but anything more than balsa sheets and some lazer cut parts, with a simple plan, is more correctly refereed to as an ARF IMHO.

Sorry but I've not seen many good boxes full of balsa and a simple plan coming from China? HK have a few but most are poor designed and not that advanced in design.
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Old Feb 22, 2014, 04:11 AM
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"Kit" being a figurative word...
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Old Feb 22, 2014, 04:26 AM
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Someone had to set it straight, nothing makes me grumpier than finding a new KIT only to discover it's an ARF! The acronym ARF (almost ready to fly) was invented to describe builds that were not KITS but a more advanced assembly build (when they first became available in the 90s). Then we saw a new acronym, the RTF (ready to fly), used to describe builds with RC and fittings installed.

Seems because KITS are now so rare we see some exporters using a hip and shoulder move on the term to redefine it, just confuses everyone.

Nothing personal, it's one of my pet hates.
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Old Feb 22, 2014, 03:34 PM
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If you want a short kit give Dave a try
Dave brown Model Drafting Services laser cutting service short kits from your plan daveb@ix.net.au.
Me personally I prefer to build from 3 view drawings
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Old Feb 23, 2014, 04:07 AM
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There are these guys: http://www.lasercutkits.com.au/
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Old Feb 23, 2014, 05:17 AM
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If you want a short kit give Dave a try
Dave brown Model Drafting Services laser cutting service short kits from your plan daveb@ix.net.au.
Me personally I prefer to build from 3 view drawings
Me too, and usually prefer to design my own, specifically usually specialising in more retro type all balsa sailplanes ... or e-sailplanes now, improved on, but unashamedly plagiarised from types like the Airtronics Aquila, the elegant sailplane on which I learned to fly in the late 70s.
I have really not had any lasting desire to fly any other RC type with anything more than a passing interest since then ... Guess this Duck is stuck in the mud! ..
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Old Feb 23, 2014, 01:45 PM
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try ace models in perth . they have some balsa kits and stuff .
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