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Old Oct 14, 2010, 12:36 PM
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The components and size look good for a RTF airplane. When I first read "patent pending Carbon-Z construction", I thought it was going to be something much cooler than a foam plane with a carbon rod in the wing though. Is that really a new technology? Good work by the marketing dept I guess.
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Old Oct 14, 2010, 12:49 PM
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Old Oct 14, 2010, 01:08 PM
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The components and size look good for a RTF airplane. When I first read "patent pending Carbon-Z construction", I thought it was going to be something much cooler than a foam plane with a carbon rod in the wing though. Is that really a new technology? Good work by the marketing dept I guess.
Hi, You are well understating the facts! It is much more than that....
There are carbon spar caps near the skin for the entire panel length.
There are plywood spars to help in bending and torsion.
There are carbon hinges for much freer, further ranging and solidd control.
This is offset by lightening via removal of foam where it has little benefit.
The result is a plane that is stiff and precise beyond any foam expectation at a great weight! (That is technical fact, not marketing).

Have Fun,
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Old Oct 14, 2010, 01:11 PM
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sweet plane, but why isnt it in the 3d foamie section?

id buy one if there was a airframe only version
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Old Oct 14, 2010, 01:41 PM
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Sorry, when I first saw it I didn't know it was foam.
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Old Oct 14, 2010, 01:52 PM
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just looks like an overpriced foam yak and they added carbon to make it sound cooler
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Old Oct 14, 2010, 01:53 PM
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Is it me or is this thing kinda heavy for a 48" airplane?
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Old Oct 14, 2010, 02:09 PM
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just looks like an overpriced foam yak and they added carbon to make it sound cooler
Not just carbon... Carbon-Z!

It looks like there's more plywood in there than carbon. Why don't they call it Plywood-Z?
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Old Oct 14, 2010, 02:22 PM
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Is it me or is this thing kinda heavy for a 48" airplane?
51" AJ Slick
Wingspan: 51"
Length: 51"
Wing Area: 535 sq.in.
Weight (RTF): 55-63 oz.

Carbon-Z Yak 54
Wingspan: 48"
Length: 48.5"
Wing Area: 525 sq.in.
Weight (RTF): 60-61 oz.

... and the Slick spec calls for a smaller battery - 2200-2650mAh vs 2800-3200mAh
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Old Oct 14, 2010, 02:41 PM
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Not just carbon... Carbon-Z!

It looks like there's more plywood in there than carbon. Why don't they call it Plywood-Z?
why would I pay $400 for an carbon added flying beer cooler?

I love parkzone foam planes and horizon too, but really $400 just because its some new foam carbon infused?
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Old Oct 14, 2010, 03:04 PM
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51" AJ Slick
Wingspan: 51"
Length: 51"
Wing Area: 535 sq.in.
Weight (RTF): 55-63 oz.

Carbon-Z Yak 54
Wingspan: 48"
Length: 48.5"
Wing Area: 525 sq.in.
Weight (RTF): 60-61 oz.

... and the Slick spec calls for a smaller battery - 2200-2650mAh vs 2800-3200mAh
Heavy


PA Katana

Wingspan: 1170mm / 46�
Length: 1140mm / 44.98�
Wing area: 500 sq.in
Flight weight: approx 965g/34oz
Wing loading: approx 9.77oz/sq.ft

3DHS 47" Edge

Wingspan: 47"
Length: 45"
Wing Area: 450 sq.in.
Weight (RTF): 38-44 oz.

Extreme Flight 48" MXS-EXP

Wingspan: 48 inches (minus Glass Wing Tips)
Length: 48 inches
Wing Area: 500 sq. in.
Weight: 44-48 oz.
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Old Oct 14, 2010, 03:53 PM
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Is it me or is this thing kinda heavy for a 48" airplane?
i thought the same thing. my skywing 48" EPP yak with balsa and carbon frame is 38 oz RTF with 3S 2200

this things nearly a pound heavier....
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Old Oct 14, 2010, 06:22 PM
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More information on Carbon-Z

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Hi, You are well understating the facts! It is much more than that....
There are carbon spar caps near the skin for the entire panel length.
There are plywood spars to help in bending and torsion.
There are carbon hinges for much freer, further ranging and solidd control.
This is offset by lightening via removal of foam where it has little benefit.
The result is a plane that is stiff and precise beyond any foam expectation at a great weight! (That is technical fact, not marketing).

Have Fun,
David
More information on the Carbon-Z Yak 54 from Quique Somenzini.
CarbonZ-YT.m4v (12 min 46 sec)
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Old Oct 14, 2010, 06:42 PM
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QQ and the rest of the team spent a lot of time to get this right.

David
David, congratulations to you and your team on this launch. I seriously hope and wish that the team has done it right this time to bring back some unhappy customers.

I thought I wont see anymore new Yak54s since the trend has now been shifted to Sbach 342s. Happy to see a Yak54 from HH.

Best wishes and all the best,
Salam
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Old Oct 14, 2010, 06:43 PM
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QuiQue has some excellent thoughts in the vid.
Thanks for that.

UM side bonus for me...
Seeing the UMX Beast next to the UM 4-site.
Just the size I was hoping for!
HH bring on the Beast!!



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