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Old Oct 20, 2014, 03:05 PM
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See #55235 for suggestions. I have three rate options available to me, but with this kind of setup I have never needed anything other than high rates. My"full" flap deflection is maybe 80 degrees. Midpoint setting about half that. The plane feels "scale-like" with either setting. The only thing that changes is the angle of approach.

There will be a nose-up when flaps are dropped. I don't mix for it. Just drop my speed before dropping the flaps and apply a bit of down elevator with the stick. This leaves more options than having a fixed amount of elevator added to a mix. Don't forget, extreme flap angles are going to be a handful if you have to abort a landing. You are going to be very busy for a few seconds, trying to maintain flight while waiting for the flaps to retract.

Just use the bottom of the wing as a level reference. I like mine balanced more towards the rear of the CG range. Nose-heavy would require constant stick compensation in pitch, or a major up-elevator trim, which will cause a climb under full power. Fly it nose heavy and explore the handling with trim adjustments. Move weight back in small increments and eventually you will reach a point where it feels right for you with the elevator neutral or close to neutral for cruise flight. The FC is a pretty good hands-off flyer when you get your balance squared away.
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Old Oct 20, 2014, 03:23 PM
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for flap deflection, watch the landing starting at about 6:55 in this vid... looks like 60-80 the vid shows people in real planes using anything from 20-80 that I saw.... nearly always less flap on takeoff...

2014 Valdez STOL Competition (8 min 31 sec)
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Old Oct 20, 2014, 05:37 PM
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for flap deflection, watch the landing starting at about 6:55 in this vid... looks like 60-80 the vid shows people in real planes using anything from 20-80 that I saw.... nearly always less flap on takeoff...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvT5LMhvogw
The winner had his flaps and Elev sinked or he was doing it manually But if you look close they both moved together on takeoff and landing. joe
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Old Oct 20, 2014, 09:51 PM
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Gabe,

Anytime buddy!

daved20319,

According to the PA-18 TCDS (type certificate data sheet), the maximum deflection angle (full flap) is 50 deg, plus or minus 2 deg. The aircraft in the previous video are competition aircraft and the flaps are most likely not configured like a standard Super Cub. The FunCub's 90 flap angle is not scale but then again neither is the FunCub, it does add a good portion to the fun though! If you haven't flown with flaps before get used to the plane without them first then play with them at a good safe height to see how they effect the handling - I'm sure you'll be shooting short field approaches in no time! On the CoG, other than the front 2 1/4" the wing bottom is flat so you could use it or the bottom of the side windows for a horizontal reference line.

dac,

Nice find! I'll watch it after I post to get an shot of inspiration!


Cheers!

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Flight check found the small brass nut and washer missing from my elevator horn. Anyone know the size of those little bits? And a source?

One flap was loose so I'd like to have extra in case. The others are getting another shot of thread lock...
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The thread is M2. Don't use too strong thread-lock, as that will strip the brass threads when/if you want to remove the nut.
I use the blue Loctite (242 or 243) and that is borderline.....
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