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Old Jun 01, 2014, 10:24 AM
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1:48 laser-cut USS Constitution for RC combat - first prototype

Ahoy folks! Several years ago, I converted a couple small plastic kits to test the possibility of expanding the sport of RC Naval Combat to include the great age of fighting sail. Those tests were highly successful, and I and a small team began designing ships in 1:48 scale for the purpose. Progress greatly slowed when I joined the Navy and went to sea, but at long last the fruit of our labors is ready to harvest. The first physical prototype of our new USS Constitution laser-cut kit is being assembled by the team's CAD specialist, RCENGR. The design is based on my experience with its pint-sized predecessor, and extensive study of the designs and techniques on this forum. I know most of you are not interested in the combat aspects of RC Naval Combat, but I hope you enjoy the design and construction of this new ship.

You can follow details of the design and construction here:
http://www.rcnavalcombat.com/Forum/t...c/Default.aspx
assembly of the kit begins on page 8. I will try to keep this thread updated as best I can, but I only get about one or two days of liberty from my ship each week, when we're in port.
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Old Jun 01, 2014, 12:32 PM
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Looking good, I'll be following this!
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Old Jun 01, 2014, 06:08 PM
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Very interesting! Let me know if you folks plan to do some Civil War subjects such as USS Kearsarge & CSS Alabama... even better, CSS Stonewall Jackson?
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Old Jun 01, 2014, 09:47 PM
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I will definitely be following this one. The Constitution was my first model ship. Also would this be able to be scaled up to 1:20th?.


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Old Jun 01, 2014, 11:56 PM
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Nice! You're already talking big models in 1:48 scale so you will need a boat trailer if you want to go up to 1:20.

Kearsarge 201.3'x33.8' / 1:48 50.3"x8.45"
Alabama 220'x31.8" / 1:48 55"x7.95"
Stonewall / Azuma 193.5'x31.5' / 1:48 48.4"x7.9"
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Old Jun 02, 2014, 06:08 AM
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I try to read as few threads here as possible cuz I'd be on the computer all day....but this is very cool. Battling sailing ships!
CAD along with laser cutting and 3D printing seem to be the future (actually the present, I guess) of modeling. It's great to see. Wish this old dog could learn the new trick of CAD drawing.
A question - any thoughts about sea battle by IR like the RC tank guys? The size of the projectile, capacity to take hits, etc can all be programmed in. Guns emit flash and IR sensors would register hits (eg to rigging, hull, etc) The Tamiya tank system is the basis of an extensive tank battling hobby. Ships are big enough and carry enough ballast (batteries!) to have smoke emitters to indicate damage, etc.
Sinking your models seems so sad....
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Old Jun 02, 2014, 10:05 AM
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ha ha....how about like paint guns......
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Old Jun 02, 2014, 06:32 PM
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Sorry but IR won't work - I tried developing an IR & then laser battle system for model ships a few years ago with Clark Model www.clark-model.com but it won't work well on water due reflection & distances involved. Also the small niche of model ship combat didn't excite them much.

Small bore paint pellets would work although they'd still rip up your sails & rigging.
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Old Jun 02, 2014, 10:25 PM
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You do get these boys are firing BB's, with the intention of sinking each other?
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Old Jun 02, 2014, 11:34 PM
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Even a greater reason to consider doing CSS Stonewall / Azuma as one of your next subjects. Couldn't think of any better way to penetrate your opponents hull than with that big armored ram & 300 pound rifle on the bow.
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Old Jun 06, 2014, 10:14 AM
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Ahoy folks! Apologies for the delay, work tends to keep me away from modern computers for most of the week. The guy building the prototype has unveiled the latest feature, an elevating gun-deck. It is broad enough to support six guns per side, the maximum broadside the Constitution is allowed to carry under Age Of Fighting Sail rules. For non-combat models, a creative builder can probably extend those platforms the entire length to support a full broadside.

I don't know if the ship can be scaled up to 1:20 scale, but I'll ask. it would almost certainly require re-sizing almost every joint and hole on the ship to fit the sizes of wood you'd use at 1:20 scale. As for Civil War era ships, that may happen in the future but probably not for several years. The Age of Sail Combat group is just getting started and we'd like to have more actual battle experience before we move into that time period.
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Old Jun 07, 2014, 07:15 AM
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Kotori,
About how long will a model like this last? After multiple battles, repairs, recovery after sinkings, wet electronics, etc., does the model eventually reach the end of useful life? Can't wait to see the battle vids.

Maybe you already saw this, but here's a BP gun battle clip that has a couple of cool scenes. After our battles, we find BP residue and wads on the decks. Only damage though is once when we collided and tangled in heavy seas.
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Old Jun 08, 2014, 06:50 PM
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RC Ship-vs-ship battle clubs have been in existence for two decades. Here is a forum where you could get answers to your questions, DanL:
http://www.rcnavalcombat.com/

The ships sink, and are raised and repaired onsite, during battle days. The ship sides are made of balsa wood, easily penetrated by BB's. The repair patches for BB holes are made of silkspan during battle days, easy to apply and fast to dry. Electronics are housed in plywood boxes (BB-proof) and stay dry. Standard servos can be waterproofed. The ships may have pumps to remove water during a battle, size and number of pumps governed by the Rules. All this RC battle info gleaned from websites, not actual battle experience, btw. I've only sunk ships by ramming (eg. my rubber-band powered Nautilus models vs bottle boat Brig)
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1444917

Our own Umi_Ryuzuki, RCgroups forum member, has extensive experience with BB gun battles & ships. I'm sure she'd be happy to answer questions.
Some websites:
http://www.queensown.org/
http://www.pacificmodelwarshipclub.com/
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Old Jun 09, 2014, 10:14 AM
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Very impressive work
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