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Old Jan 25, 2012, 12:49 PM
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Beware the "Third" Party...

The only thing that scares me badly is another 4 years of PBO and a Democratic Congerss... The only way Clinton won his first election to the White House was with help from Ross Perot, running as an independent... because he had an axe to grind... Don't be duped into voting for a third candidate... which will turn out to actually be a vote for Dumbo... regardless of the rhetoric and semantics they throw out...

Wakey... wakey... America...
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Old Jan 25, 2012, 01:12 PM
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Clinton was pretty conservative compared to Bush II.
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Old Jan 25, 2012, 01:16 PM
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I suspect Ross Perot would have been President were it not for his out again, in again maneuver ....which I also suspect was intentional.
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Old Jan 25, 2012, 01:30 PM
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Clinton was pretty conservative compared to Bush II.
Not really relevant to the actual topic of the post... That third party thing will drag too many conservative and centrist voters away from the Republican Nominee... that's what I would hate to see happen.
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Old Jan 25, 2012, 01:34 PM
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I suspect Ross Perot would have been President were it not for his out again, in again maneuver ....which I also suspect was intentional.
He did very well in the popular vote for an independent. His goal was to get Bush defeated for a second term, and he duped many into voting for him, even though he really wasn't seeking the office. Those that voted for him, (and I'm ashamed to admit that I include myself), were actually wasting their votes. I was a fan of his when he went to Iran to get his employees... but after this stunt, I wouldn't p on him if he was on fire... unless I could p gasoline...

Clinton was extrtemely lucky, because he was able to ride the Reagan policies that were put in place and the economy soared... and Clinton took credit...
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Old Jan 25, 2012, 01:37 PM
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Not really relevant to the actual topic of the post... That third party thing will drag too many conservative and centrist voters away from the Republican Nominee... that's what I would hate to see happen.
Depends on the candidate and their specific voter draw.
While the effects of any particular 3rd P candidate will be quibbled over and politiced to death I and many others believe Nader was the critical factor in the election of W Bush over Gore.....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ralph_N...22_controversy

Point being that this can be a good thing or a bad one depending on your views.
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Old Jan 25, 2012, 03:04 PM
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I dunno... regardless of our views, the taxpayers can't sustain the direction we've been taken...

To me, that's nothing to do with anyones veiw, but mathematical facts...
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Old Jan 25, 2012, 03:11 PM
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I dunno... regardless of our views, the taxpayers can't sustain the direction we've been taken...

To me, that's nothing to do with anyones veiw, but mathematical facts...
Humm, maybe if Hillary runs third party....
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Old Jan 25, 2012, 03:24 PM
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Humm, maybe if Hillary runs third party....
I know you are being silly.. but I would vote for her in a second....

Socialist, Marxist, Fascist, PMS'ist party.

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Old Jan 25, 2012, 03:25 PM
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Socialist, Marxist, Fascist, PMS'ist party.
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U so crazy!
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Old Jan 25, 2012, 03:53 PM
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I know you are being silly.. but I would vote for her in a second....
I don't think she'd actually admit to those labels, but you did just make Ira's point.

Heck, we might even be able to get Ron Paul elected if Her Thighness and President Downgrade split the pink vote.
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Old Jan 25, 2012, 04:13 PM
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I thought she was rather fetching and I hear she's loaded
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Old Jan 25, 2012, 04:52 PM
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The only thing that scares me badly is another 4 years of PBO and a Democratic Congerss... The only way Clinton won his first election to the White House was with help from Ross Perot, running as an independent... because he had an axe to grind... Don't be duped into voting for a third candidate... which will turn out to actually be a vote for Dumbo... regardless of the rhetoric and semantics they throw out...

Wakey... wakey... America...
What scares me is getting someone in there thats WORSE than BO.
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Old Jan 25, 2012, 05:02 PM
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I don't think she'd actually admit to those labels, but you did just make Ira's point.

Heck, we might even be able to get Ron Paul elected if Her Thighness and President Downgrade split the pink vote.

Hummm, Ya know...I hear that in spite of all the smiles for the camera the Clinton's reeeealy loath Obama.

Naw, they would never do anything that nast....... !
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Old Jan 25, 2012, 05:05 PM
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What scares me is getting someone in there thats WORSE than BO.
You're kidding right? I don't see ANYBODY running that could possibly be worse than obammy.
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