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Old Sep 04, 2012, 10:28 AM
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Good First 3D Plane

So I'm ready to move on to a real 3D plane, what are some good choices?

My flight experience is varied. I have flown gliders in the past, and I currently fly a PZ BF 109, a scratch built 3D FFF plane, and a Graupner Ministar flying wing (it's similar to a Stryker just not as fast). After a few months with the Ripper and near 100 flights of it, I'm ready to take the leap for a real 3D plane. I'm kinda liking the Acromaster, but would prefer something balsa and ply. ARF or flat kit is ok.
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Old Sep 04, 2012, 10:39 AM
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I like the 48'' Edge from Extreme Flight. Super stable in post stall, it's almost too easy to harrier with it. The only weak part is the landing gear plate but just reinforce that with something like epoxy or CA glue and you should be good to go. The plane itself can take a beating. I crashed mine hovering a few feet over asphalt and didn't break a thing.

I've also heard good things about the 48'' Edge from 3DHS and have owned and enjoyed the 41'' Edge. The 41'' is a very good very durable learning platform but the 48'' from Extreme Flight was definitely more stable and handled the wind better.
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Old Sep 04, 2012, 10:42 AM
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http://www.3dhobbyshop.com/48-EPP-Extra_p_16045.html

my favorite plane. cost of ownership to the way it flies. just a nice all around package that you can let loose on without having to worry about cost all the time like my 40 % plane

Eddie Acoba Flying 3DHS 48" EPP Extra at ARCA (4 min 2 sec)


Eddie Acoba Fly 3DHS 119" Extra 330 at ARCA (12 min 15 sec)
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Old Sep 04, 2012, 01:22 PM
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While a lot of people suggest either the extra or the edge, the edge comes up more often as a learner plane due to the straight leading edge. I tend to differ and suggest the ef laser.

Its one of the most stable and easiest to harrier planes I have flown.
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Old Sep 04, 2012, 04:18 PM
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I love Edges and have had both the EF and 3DHS. For a 1st 3D plane go the 3DHS 48 Edge it is the better trainer of the 2. However once you have some experience under your belt the EF Edge is the next level up in terms of capability.
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Old Sep 04, 2012, 04:42 PM
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So I'm ready to move on to a real 3D plane.......
Hopefully you will find this to be helpful....The New Sport Pilot's Guide To 3D
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Old Sep 04, 2012, 04:47 PM
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I have flown a ton of 3D and I thought there was no such thing as a trainer plane for it... then I got the Addiction X... Nothing else flies like it does. It's almost like cheating, it has no bad habits, it's completely neutral in all aspects, has no nasty snap, no wing rocking, nothing annoying.
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Old Sep 04, 2012, 08:42 PM
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You'll not go wrong with 3DHS or EF for an ARF that can do both 3D and precision. Some have better flight characteristics one way or another but all are excellent fliers.

Check this thread, lots of positive comments about this ARF as well.

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1645557
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Old Sep 04, 2012, 11:28 PM
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My Extra EPP is good for me. I like it, and I can do hands off hovering. (I have a 3 axis gyro on it. I got it from HobbyKing for $25 shipped. It was worth it. I am using a 4 CH non computerized radio, and it's too sensitive for me to be touching the controls too hard without me rolling inverted
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Old Sep 05, 2012, 09:00 AM
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I tend to agree with most views here. I'd vote for either the 3DHS 48" Edge, 3DHS 47" Extra SHP, EF 48" Edge or any of the full fuse EPP planes from 3DHS.

I'd say that the 3DHS and EF 48" Edges would be at the top of my list though.
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Thanks all, I'll have a look at those. I do like the PA Katana as well, but I think that would be pushing it for my skillset.
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Old Sep 05, 2012, 11:35 AM
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Thanks all, I'll have a look at those. I do like the PA Katana as well, but I think that would be pushing it for my skillset.
Without going into a great debate I'd simply recommend that you stick with EF or 3DHS. I think you'll find a much better overal experience with both of these companies.
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Old Sep 05, 2012, 11:46 AM
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Without going into a great debate I'd simply recommend that you stick with EF or 3DHS. I think you'll find a much better overall experience with both of these companies.
+1

My PA Extra 260 was an amazing plane IMO... until I tried 3DHS & EF. Great for light & floaty 3D in low wind, but not as capable in all maneuvers as it flies with much less inertial energy and gets blown around a decent amount on windy days.

EF & 3DHS... you can't go wrong with them.
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Old Sep 05, 2012, 11:55 AM
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Without going into a great debate I'd simply recommend that you stick with EF or 3DHS. I think you'll find a much better overal experience with both of these companies.
Yes, god forbid you have a problem with a Precision Aerobatics plane... most likely you wouldn't, but if you did, it can be kinda hard to get service. However, I think it's worth it - I have flown the 3DHS stuff, and it just doesn't stack up to the PA stuff. The PA planes are noticeably lighter weight, and it makes a difference. The Addiction is also a completely different shape from the planes you're talking about - it's not trying to come close but not quite be a scale plane, it's designed for 3D, and that's it. The PA Extra 260 isn't a good example - it's not a good 3D plane and doesn't really exemplify what I'm talking about.

Take a chance on the Addiction-X. It's not a huge risk, and I'm being totally serious when I say nothing else flies like it. I wish everybody could give it a try and see what I mean... it is so easy to fly you will swear something is wrong.

Addiction-X 2nd Flight (5 min 8 sec)
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Old Sep 05, 2012, 12:04 PM
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... it's designed for 3D, and that's it....
That's the problem, one trick pony. Of course low and slow might be slightly easier but high energy and precision lack. Most of their airframes are not well rounded.
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