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Old Sep 15, 2012, 04:49 AM
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Hobby King Habicht's

Was looking on the hobby king website and noticed they have a 2.4 AND a 2.6 metre habicht for sale.

The 2.6 seems to be the windrider / Jamara model, which is extremely heavy.

Does anyone know who makes the 2.4m model? It looks like it's a plastic, not fibreglass fuselage.

There are different specs to the weight on the hobby king page, does anyone know the correct weight, is it still as much of an elephant as the 2.6 model?

Any info anyone can give is appreciated!
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Old Aug 09, 2013, 02:18 PM
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Hobby King 2.4 Habicht

I too am looking at the 2.4 meter Habicht which looks very promising. It has
supposedly been out on the market for at least a year according to their ads,
but no one on THEIR website forums or RC Group forums has reported
back with any information, only questions about the manufacturer, the blow
molded fuse, flight tests etc.

It's currently on sale for $99 @ Hobby King which is very tempting, but I think
there must be some reason that there is no information or feedback from the purchasers. ANYONE out there who can comment on any of the questions
or issues such as the blow molded fuselage, warped wings, wing covering
material, fit and finish, flight tests, or who the manufacturer is????

Again, judging from their photos and their verbal description, these appear to
be very nice products, so what is the big mystery? Hobby King ?

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Old Aug 13, 2013, 04:30 PM
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Hobby King 2.4 Habicht

Hard to believe that no one has bought or flown one of these after over
a year on the market. Hobby King, can you inform us on how many of
these were sold?
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Old Aug 13, 2013, 04:53 PM
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Hard to believe that no one has bought or flown one of these after over
a year on the market. Hobby King, can you inform us on how many of
these were sold?


If you did a search on RCG you would found some infos and videos

eg:
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1962031

Thomas
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Old Aug 14, 2013, 11:11 AM
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Hobby King 2.4 Habicht

Thomas, thanks for the link, but had already seen it. Correct me if I'm wrong,
but the thread was commenting on the HK 2.6 meter Habicht , which is a
different animal than this newer? 2.4 m version, and appears to be 700 grams
lighter and has barn door spoilers. I have searched RC Groups,RC Universe,
and also posted on the Hobby King website, and all that turns up are the
same questions I am asking. If you know of any other link or thread dealing
with the 2.4 meter version specifically, please post it, as a lot or others are
curious also.

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Old Aug 14, 2013, 12:05 PM
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Thomas, thanks for the link, but had already seen it. Correct me if I'm wrong,
but the thread was commenting on the HK 2.6 meter Habicht , which is a
different animal than this newer? 2.4 m version, and appears to be 700 grams
lighter and has barn door spoilers. I have searched RC Groups,RC Universe,
and also posted on the Hobby King website, and all that turns up are the
same questions I am asking. If you know of any other link or thread dealing
with the 2.4 meter version specifically, please post it, as a lot or others are
curious also.

Smokin Joe
I think this is the one.

CMP Habicht 2.4M 02.mp4 (1 min 49 sec)
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Old Aug 14, 2013, 03:57 PM
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Smokin Joe, it pays to take HK's weight statements with a grain of salt. Did you see this comment: "Built per the instructions, the overall weight is 3750 grams with the recommended servos. I am looking for lots of wind on the slope." Having noted that, what looks like excessive weight in a glider is not such a problem, particularly for a sloper, but you have to assess what stress the airframe can take in respect of aerobatics and what strengthening might be needed (more weight).
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Old Aug 15, 2013, 12:25 PM
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Thanks for the replies guys.
--Diego 84, yes that is the 2.4 version in the video, which can be
identified by the long stripe down the fuse. It appears to have been
made by CMP, and does fly,,,,,,,, but we don't know anything more
such as wind conditions, flying weight, etc.
--Kiwi Kid, I totally agree that their published weight may be made
in heaven, like a lot of other manufacturers also claim, which is
why I keep asking for some actual data from people who have
built and flown the 2.4 meter version. Didn't find any comments
about the 2.4 weighing 3700 grams instead of 2300, but did see
a post about the Habicht weighing 3700 gr. but I think he was
referring to the 2.6 version which is stated to be 3000 grams, but
is more like 3700 grams as reported by actual pilots. Please
correct me if I'm wrong.
--Still looking for people with real world data to chime in.
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The comments are in the review section of the international product (see also the excellent reply he got): http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...00mm_ARF_.html

Basically, the weight will make it fly fast and you will just have to select appropriate sites and wind speeds to suit it.

Looks like you guys can get the 2.6m red one for $109 on sale now too.
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Old Aug 16, 2013, 01:35 PM
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Forget the 2,4m Habicht.
It has an ABS fuse which is very prone to cracks / breaks easily.
It flies nice though. A friend had one.
The 2.6 is very nice and the weight is no problem. Much stronger.
I've been flying it for a while now.
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Old Aug 16, 2013, 01:52 PM
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Here is a thread on the 2.4m
http://www.modelbouwforum.nl/forums/...2-40mtr-6.html
It is in Dutch but there are some pics and a short video of it's final crash due to tipstall.
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Thanks for that link - looks like you need to be alert to tip stalls on both the 2.4 and 2.6m. Could be real tricky on landing approaches. I think these comments loosely translated are telling: "Did I want to land it without damage then I would continue to fly the Habicht only in high winds on the dune. Now my conclusion: It was very nice, I've had some really nice days flying it, but it was a lesson that this is still just cheap Chinese junk and I will no longer buy aircraft that I have not seen in real life or in my hands."

I note also this comment from TFLG (who is a hugely experienced slope pilot) regarding the 2.6m Habicht : "Actually for the price this is one of the better "cheap Chinese" scalies that I've tried. Sure it has a multitude of issues (like the weight, the thick paint, parts fit etc). But overall this one looks and flies OK. Once you know about the tip stall you can be ready for it and hopefully avoid it."
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Old Aug 16, 2013, 04:35 PM
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Much obliged Kiwikid :-)
Funny enough I haven't experienced any tippstall with my 2.6 Habicht.
I fly it both off the slope and aerotow.
I agree with TFLG that it is a good quality ARF.

You translation is pretty accurate btw. Lol.

Regards from Holland, Maarten
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Cool !

love to see it go ballistic

Had the chance to really wring mine out last weekend - big slope, big wind, big lift
that fat draggy thing comes alive !
had a blast - outside loops really need some momentum, but it will go around
and the flicks & spins - really crazy wild

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