2.4 ghz wont glitch it only locks up like PCM. I lost 3 models on PCM wont use anything with failsafe ever again. Its all hype.

Digital Servos- too new and prone to heat and failure on your elev of your $1700 moldie. Its too much risk.


Old Buzzards Soaring Guide- No mention of the wide spread sink cycle. All hype with autographed copies floating around for big bucks.

Hosemonger tubing for catapult- Hard to pull from the very 1st steps-- Too much energy to pull back and only a slightly higher launch than Theraband. Its a status symbol like Trex helis. Over priced.


I have all products mentioned here and used them. This is my opinion.

Keith White

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Originally Posted by lookingatsale

2.4 ghz wont glitch it only locks up like PCM. I lost 3 models on PCM wont use anything with failsafe ever again. Its all hype.

Digital Servos- too new and prone to heat and failure on your elev of your $1700 moldie. Its too much risk.


Old Buzzards Soaring Guide- No mention of the wide spread sink cycle. All hype with autographed copies floating around for big bucks.

Hosemonger tubing for catapult- Hard to pull from the very 1st steps-- Too much energy to pull back and only a slightly higher launch than Theraband. Its a status symbol like Trex helis. Over priced.


I have all products mentioned here and used them. This is my opinion.

Keith White

This may explains Keith 'state of mind'

How to Succeed with RC Gliders Life Cheating Motor Installation (4 min 16 sec)

Don't be to hard on him, maybe he is a nice guy?

Ohhmmmmm....................
Thomas

Electric Motors are the Devils work! Unless they are used in a servo I guess.....

Wow, if someone were to tell me that he could relate God with Sailplanes I would say "you are nuts", but this guy actually does a good job of it.

I don't know how much god has to do with it but soaring sure does seem magical.

Originally Posted by lookingatsale

"2.4 ghz wont glitch it only locks up like PCM. I lost 3 models on PCM wont use anything with failsafe ever again. Its all hype."

Failsafe has saved a couple of planes for me. I've never saved a plane that lost the radio, without it.


"Digital Servos- too new and prone to heat and failure on your elev of your $1700 moldie. Its too much risk."

My Gawd! What on earth are you doing with that elevator servo?!?!?



"Old Buzzards Soaring Guide- No mention of the wide spread sink cycle. All hype with autographed copies floating around for big bucks."

Personally I thought it was 20 bucks well spent. I learned alot from that book. Maybe not each and every aspect of soaring but quite alot to say the least.


"Hosemonger tubing for catapult- Hard to pull from the very 1st steps-- Too much energy to pull back and only a slightly higher launch than Theraband. Its a status symbol like Trex helis. Over priced."

Eat your Wheaties, girly man!
Status symbol.....Are you freeking kidding me?!? A chunk of rubber tubing a status symbol? MUHAHAHAHA


"I have all products mentioned here and used them. This is my opinion."

Keith White

These are MY opinions

So 2.4 really cannot glitch for a split second then can it? No new versions without failsafe available?

I've been soaring for many years now, and mostly in competition circumstances (where our models are asked the most of)

- I use 2.4GHZ, JR system with the plug-in modual, in my 9X2. The only time I have had a glitch is when either 1. the batt. pack in the model dropped a cell...reducing the requiered voltage, 2. When I have been at the very edge of visibilty, approx. 2km downwind and 1500ft up, even then, I believe this had something to do with the amount of charge remaining in the model.

- I only use JR servo's, so I can't comment for other brands, but I have never had one fail in any of my 'B' AND 'J' models. I always make sure that they have no resistance when installed, and can't bind....and I use the linkages, rods etc that I can get.

- Who cares about OLD BUZZARDS SOARING BOOK, it obviously has given many people an insight on the basics of soaring, but after that, getting out there and flying, and learning from from others, is how anyone will progress further.
A book will never supplement practical experience, so you can't expect it to.

- I've never used HOSEMONSTER, but I'm sure I have used something similar. Some of these rubbers are designed to perform different tasks. I have a very heavy duty tube, that is only 10m, coupled with 30m of line, it is used to give my Pike Perfect a quick fling into the air (about 100ft max) to practice landings or low level get-aways, if I wanted more hight, I would use a less heavy duty tube in a longer length, and more line, to give a more even pull all the way up.

All of these things plus many more in our hobby/sport can have isues when not used for their intended purpose, installed incorrectly, or not powered/setup in a way to maximise the products potential, or usingan item that is to strong/weak for the job asked of it.
After all this, sometimes a product will just fail, but thats life, no product can be mass produced to never ever have a lemon, that why we have replacement warranties.
This is my opinion

Originally Posted by lookingatsale

2.4 ghz wont glitch it only locks up like PCM. I lost 3 models on PCM wont use anything with failsafe ever again. Its all hype.

Digital Servos- too new and prone to heat and failure on your elev of your $1700 moldie. Its too much risk.


Old Buzzards Soaring Guide- No mention of the wide spread sink cycle. All hype with autographed copies floating around for big bucks.

Hosemonger tubing for catapult- Hard to pull from the very 1st steps-- Too much energy to pull back and only a slightly higher launch than Theraband. Its a status symbol like Trex helis. Over priced.


I have all products mentioned here and used them. This is my opinion.

Keith White

2.4 faster, more solid, and no shoot downs
Digital servos -Tight, strong, reliable, and I won't use anything but.
Buzzards book- Never seen it but I'm sure I could learn something from it.
Hosemonster high start - Get what you pay for. Great high quality product.
Keith White- Troll??????
This is MY opinion and the only one that counts

Whats the fastest relink youve seen in a 2.4?

Originally Posted by lookingatsale

Whats the fastest relink youve seen in a 2.4?

Maybe I've had more then I know about and the re-link is quicker then I can notice, But the very few ones I have noticed, have been no more then 1-2 secs, and this was due to power dropping, By the way, I will not use 2.4ghz with anything but 6V power suppy, anything else and you are asking for 'issues' in my own opinion.
The worst moment I have had with 2.4ghz was in New Zealand a couple of years ago. I travelled over to take part of their SOARFEST competition, on the first practise day I charged my RX pack, and it finished charge quickly....I ignored the signal, and flew. I had a lockout and my Pike Perfect crashed into a near by cornfield. luckily the corn broke the fall, and I was able to compete the next day with nothing but minor scatches. I later checked the pack and found that it had dropped a cell reducing it below the nominal voltage. It was however 2 1/2 years old and had taken many hard landings over that time, so I deserved to lose a lot more than just my pride that day.
But, I still would use nothing but 2.4ghz, as ALL the problems I've seen over the years can be narrowed down to human error, and in correct use (which always gets blamed on the system to save face)

Wow, where is HiStarter when you need him?

Marc

I've been flying an SD10-G for over a year. No visible lock outs with the ten channel receiver. ATX doesn't have a logger so if they have happened they were too quick to see as mentioned above.

Also, the SD10-G allows you to enable or not enable failsafe. But, keep in mind if not enabled and you do have a lock out the servos will keep their last setting according to the manual. No shoot downs from other radios is reassuring.

Originally Posted by OVSS Boss

Wow, where is HiStarter when you need him?

Marc

Lol !