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Old Mar 23, 2014, 10:43 PM
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And as a side benefit he no longer worries about glaucoma, and gets to visit Colorado quite often.
Im not sure which of us should be worried, as that was the first thought that popped into my head....
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Old Mar 24, 2014, 02:12 AM
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yep...we all gonna reach the same destination ,some will take the scenic route though...
LOL good one
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Old Mar 24, 2014, 05:15 AM
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Food isn't finite.

Wealth isn't finite either, people will never stop figuring out ways of making more money.
Let me know when droughts/floods/snows/wars/and so forth don't affect the amount of food produced then!

Ask many of those that are starving due to that thing called a 'famine' (sorry to be considering things outside of the average Americans ability to consider, it seems.. ).

And money is nothing (it's simply a symbol representing an imaginary property of the human mind) - the government prints more of it all the time!

(For a hint: read the HHGTTG regarding leaves as a currency.. ).
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Old Mar 24, 2014, 05:46 AM
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Let me know when droughts/floods/snows/wars/and so forth don't affect the amount of food produced then!

Ask many of those that are starving due to that thing called a 'famine' (sorry to be considering things outside of the average Americans ability to consider, it seems.. ).

And money is nothing (it's simply a symbol representing an imaginary property of the human mind) - the government prints more of it all the time!

(For a hint: read the HHGTTG regarding leaves as a currency.. ).
The man does make a good point food wise .Natural food is in abundance all around us ,its just a matter of educating oneself as to whats edible ....how many bears or deer or squirells you see running down to the Piggly Wiggly everytime they get hungry?
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Old Mar 24, 2014, 06:09 AM
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The man does make a good point food wise .Natural food is in abundance all around us ,its just a matter of educating oneself as to whats edible ....how many bears or deer or squirells you see running down to the Piggly Wiggly everytime they get hungry?
Isn't one of the reasons deer herds are culled by hunting to reduce the number of deaths by starvation?
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Old Mar 24, 2014, 06:13 AM
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Isn't one of the reasons deer herds are culled by hunting to reduce the number of deaths by starvation?
never heard that given as the reason,I've always heard they are like rabbits when it comes to multiplying...
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The man does make a good point food wise .Natural food is in abundance all around us ,its just a matter of educating oneself as to whats edible ....how many bears or deer or squirells you see running down to the Piggly Wiggly everytime they get hungry?
But still 'finite' daddiozz!

Many species have died due to their particular food source disappearing.

And it's perfectly possible that the same could happen to the human race.

As I mentioned, some areas of human habitation regularly suffer from such deficiencies - it just happens that we are a) lucky geographically b) protect ourselves, even if it means to the detriment of a local population.
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Old Mar 24, 2014, 07:53 AM
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Doomed you say


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Oh dear
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Old Mar 24, 2014, 08:15 AM
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Let me know when droughts/floods/snows/wars/and so forth don't affect the amount of food produced then!

Ask many of those that are starving due to that thing called a 'famine' (sorry to be considering things outside of the average Americans ability to consider, it seems.. ).
Food is plentifull all over the world, you just have to be willing to move where it's located. It's peoples' own fault they live in famine prone areas and don't relocate to someplace better. With today's technology it's possible to grow food almost anywhere, just not cost effective in some places.



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Money had to be invented because the barter system sometimes doesn't work, or is a PITA to deal with.
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Old Mar 24, 2014, 08:29 AM
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But still 'finite' daddiozz!

Many species have died due to their particular food source disappearing.

And it's perfectly possible that the same could happen to the human race.

As I mentioned, some areas of human habitation regularly suffer from such deficiencies - it just happens that we are a) lucky geographically b) protect ourselves, even if it means to the detriment of a local population.
We're going to have to agree to disagree on that point .Virtually every source of food that we -humans can survive on is renewable .From every fish in the seas to every bird that flys above to every creature that slithers ,crawls,walks or runs upon the ground is available to us ...yes including insects ....and I haven't begun to touch on vegetation.Theres no need or reason for anyone to starve ,except perhaps ignorance or intervention or lack of motivation to at least try other sources.
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Food is plentifull all over the world, you just have to be willing to move where it's located. It's peoples' own fault they live in famine prone areas and don't relocate to someplace better. With today's technology it's possible to grow food almost anywhere, just not cost effective in some places.
Typical American attitude, Usta! "It's people's own fault..."
(Have you any idea of what happens outside of the USA? ).

And here's a typical article about food shortages...

http://www.theguardian.com/global-de...crisis-warning

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Money had to be invented because the barter system sometimes doesn't work, or is a PITA to deal with.
Of course! It was invented to meet a requirement (portability and convenience) - but now has attained a life of it's own!

(Let me know when you are on a successful dollar-bill diet, and how it's working for you.. ).
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Old Mar 24, 2014, 08:36 AM
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We're going to have to agree to disagree on that point .Virtually every source of food that we -humans can survive on is renewable .From every fish in the seas to every bird that flys above to every creature that slithers ,crawls,walks or runs upon the ground is available to us ...yes including insects ....and I haven't begun to touch on vegetation.Theres no need or reason for anyone to starve ,except perhaps ignorance or intervention or lack of motivation to at least try other sources.
I have no problems with us recognising that we have different opinions, daddiozz!
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Typical American attitude, Usta! "It's people's own fault..."
(Have you any idea of what happens outside of the USA? ).

And here's a typical article about food shortages...

http://www.theguardian.com/global-de...crisis-warning
I don't need to read an article telling me people live in the wrong places. If they want to stay in one place and starve then that's their own fault. Seems to me there were many explorers throughout history looking for better places to live, and nomadic tribes move to where the food is too.

My grandparents emigrated to the USA because it was a better place to live, they didn't stay put and whine about living conditions.
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Food is sort of scarce in the cities. I'm moving to the country where I can start anew on some farmland and forests. I'm sure the owners will understand.
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Old Mar 25, 2014, 01:47 AM
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Money had to be invented because the barter system sometimes doesn't work, or is a PITA to deal with.
Especially for people that dont have anything to barter...
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