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Old Jul 02, 2012, 10:06 AM
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Echos Of "Read My Lips"

"Not a single dime." .....

Barack Obama's version of "read my lips NO NEW TAXES" (0 min 18 sec)




And the truth?
75% of Obamacare will be paid for by taxes on the middle class representing the largest tax increase in the history of the world....

http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-T...n-Middle-Class

Hey, if you have to lie, lie big.
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Old Jul 02, 2012, 10:07 AM
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Old Jul 02, 2012, 10:17 AM
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Old Jul 02, 2012, 10:24 AM
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The Cheerleaders would say it's a "fee" ... unless it's up for Constitutional reasons ... then it's a "tax" ... now it's back to being a "fee" ...
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Old Jul 02, 2012, 10:27 AM
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I still want to know how the SC has the authority to re-wright laws?
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Old Jul 02, 2012, 11:05 AM
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I still want to know how the SC has the authority to re-wright laws?
Okay, they interpret laws ... and the Majority decided to interpret the law as a tax and not as a fee. And because it is a tax, it was considered Constitutional under the powers of taxation.

That said ... all of these Obamacare Cheerleaders should now just give in and accept the fact that the law exists as a tax, which goes contrary to yet another one of Obama's campaign promises ... even though he broke that one years ago.

Just stand up, admit it and be done with it.
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Old Jul 02, 2012, 11:09 AM
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Actually only one 're-wrote' the law, the others fell into place when they realized they had a way around the constitution.
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Old Jul 02, 2012, 04:35 PM
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Well, he can join GHW Bush.
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Old Jul 02, 2012, 05:19 PM
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Well, he can join GHW Bush.
I hope he suffers the same consequences in November too.
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Old Jul 02, 2012, 05:25 PM
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Okay, they interpret laws ... and the Majority decided to interpret the law as a tax and not as a fee. And because it is a tax, it was considered Constitutional under the powers of taxation.

That said ... all of these Obamacare Cheerleaders should now just give in and accept the fact that the law exists as a tax, which goes contrary to yet another one of Obama's campaign promises ... even though he broke that one years ago.

Just stand up, admit it and be done with it.
But this is the issue I have. The SC spent the entire first day of discussion deciding if it was a tax or not. If they determined it was, they could not rule on it because no one had been taxed yet. There is some other rule about that. But then, it magically turns back into a tax? Sounds like someone got a horse head in their bed to me!

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Article III, Section 1 does not grant the court the power to rewrite law or to write law. That power belongs to Congress alone. Further, the Roberts' tax does not square with any taxing power in the Constitution.
Our government just makes stuff up to meet their needs and that is SO wrong.

http://www.mcall.com/opinion/yourvie...,4496207.story
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Old Jul 02, 2012, 09:19 PM
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An Obama add slamming Hillary for her health care plan that would force everyone to buy insurance.....like his just did....

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=a69_1341260604
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