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Old Jun 12, 2012, 01:16 AM
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XPS module and Nano receiver=Wireless Buddy-Box???

I was just thinking,The single line PPM output mode for the Nano receiver should make it perfect for a "Wireless Buddy-Box" .Connect the Nano's PPM output to the buddy port of a transmitter,and BIND any transmitter with an XPS module to the Nano.The channel Mapping could even adjust for the differing channel order between radio brands(I.E. JR/Spectrum vs Futaba/Hitec).If JR and spectrum only provided a power connection on their "Buddy" port,it would be perfect..
Considering the short range needed,I would think a Nano receiver could be reprogrammed to serve as the "Student" transmitter's module.The $30 price of a Nano receiver vs $99 for a standard module would make it great.
What do YOU think, Jim?? Can You rework a Nano receiver to do this??or devise a "Low Power" (Low Cost)module for the purpose???
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Old Jun 12, 2012, 11:30 AM
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This could be done, but there are liability issues associated with providing a low power transmitter. Next thing you know, people will be saying "hey, it works for a 1/4 mile"... and it might, but it might not as well. Offering a product that knowingly is going to have shorter range could create some potential problems, like forgetting to change back to the full range version. I don't know if this is something that we really want to do.
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Old Jun 12, 2012, 01:20 PM
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OK, So it takes a fully functional XPS transmitter as the Buddy-Box.But the PPM outputof the Nano receiver (combined with channel mapping) can interface it wih the Buddy port of any transmitter.
I don't think my Nanos are new enough to feature the PPM output(and I don't have an XDP to program them)or I'd give it a try.
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Old Jun 14, 2012, 09:30 AM
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Yes, this does work. Besides fly flight simulators, people are using this capability for buddy box controls too.
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Old Jun 17, 2012, 10:41 AM
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Jim,How is the wireless Buddy-Box feature achieved with the new XPS (16/32) transmitter? Does it basically include a second Module/receiver to handle the Buddy-Box connection? And can the "Buddy" module be "Bound" to any transmitter with an XPS module installed? And Channel Mapped at the "Master" end to match the order of servo outputs??
Also,How does the 16/32 do XDP functions?Does it use the same XDP software as an XDP or telemetry station??
I hate to sound cheap.But I don't want to buy an XDP(just to program channel mapping for a Buddy-Box) if I'm (very soon I hope)going to have a transmitter that handles that function just as easily.Of course an XDP can be used to check the function of the transmitter.If the transmitter were causing a problem, I doubt it would work well for diagnosing itself.
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Old Jun 18, 2012, 02:15 AM
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The transmitters talk to each other for the buddy box, so you don't need anything else.

The application that mimics the XDP functions on a PC is built into the transmitter. You don't need anything else.

However, to update the transmitter's firmware you would need the XDP.
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Old Jun 18, 2012, 03:10 PM
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Great news on nano to buddy box other radios with the modules.
Now how exactly is it done?
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Old Jun 18, 2012, 04:48 PM
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You need a Nano, powered and plugged into the trainer port of the main controller box (one that is flying the aircraft). The other box with the XPS module is the trainer box that talks to the Nano.
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Old Jun 18, 2012, 05:53 PM
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which pins and what channel on the nano.
what do u do to set up the nano to the radio?
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Old Jun 18, 2012, 11:44 PM
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There is a thread here about the PPM output mode for the Nano. It's also in the manual.

You just need to make a harness to plug one of the channels from the Nano to the trainer port's PPM signal.
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How do you bind to the Nano RX?|
How do I down load the Manuel?
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Old Apr 01, 2015, 04:45 PM
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You can download the manual (which has binding information) by going here:

http://www.xtremepowersystems.net/manuals.php

Select the manual for the Nano receiver. You can also see the thread we have here on binding:

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1654449
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