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Old Dec 30, 2014, 01:15 AM
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Can F3P Flying be Learned in a Sim?

Can F3P flying be learned in a simulator like R/C Desk Pilot? I've spent my whole life flying sailplanes upright. But seeing F3P hast me excited to see if I can slow precise aerobatics.

Edit: While looking for a free soaring simulator I just found PicaSim which has an indoor electric plane. So many years of control inputs to keep the plane upright.....
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Old Dec 30, 2014, 07:35 AM
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I find the SIM a very useful tool.
I tend to make the same mistakes on it I make with the real model.

It works best if you use it along with a model and work on specific things, not just fly around randomly. Also a very good way to learn a sequence.

You do have to pick the right model in the SIM, and it won;t ever be exactly the same as a real model. Generally the SIM is easier and more forgiving.

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Old Dec 30, 2014, 02:23 PM
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I find the SIM a very useful tool.
I tend to make the same mistakes on it I make with the real model.

It works best if you use it along with a model and work on specific things, not just fly around randomly. Also a very good way to learn a sequence.

You do have to pick the right model in the SIM, and it won;t ever be exactly the same as a real model. Generally the SIM is easier and more forgiving.

Pat MacKenzie
I agree with Pat, sim is a great learning tool! It is a safe place to learn a pattern and where you can master the basic control inputs.

I actually find that flying the pattern with my actual plane is easier than flying it on sim.

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Old Dec 30, 2014, 09:00 PM
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I agree with Pat, sim is a great learning tool! It is a safe place to learn a pattern and where you can master the basic control inputs.

I actually find that flying the pattern with my actual plane is easier than flying it on sim.

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It can be easier to keep track of where the model is relative to the walls in real life, on the SIM you can kind of get lost. I generally don't fly the SIM in indoor backgrounds. They tend to be too small, either that or the scale is out relative to the model.

I am using Aerofly Pro, could be different/better in other SIMs.
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Old Dec 31, 2014, 02:58 PM
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I learned to torque roll on Aerofly Pro. My first real life torque roll was pretty good. Then, it suddenly occurred to me that I was flying in real life. After that my torque rolls were more iffy.
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Old Jan 03, 2015, 11:02 PM
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Thanks for the input on this. The indoor electric plane in the sim I am using seems to fly like the F3P Youtube videos I've watched. It is a little fast though and gets far away quickly.

Anecdote: Years ago I used to work on real flight simulators mounted on motion platforms. Mounted in the cockpits they all had "the big yellow button" as I called it -- the stop/reset button. I am glad RC sims have a reset button for all these times my thumbs go in the wrong direction.
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