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Old Sep 29, 2014, 10:04 AM
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Skyzone Plug-N-Play FPV Sets

Hey RCGroups members,
These 32 channel plug and play fpv sets showed up on the HobbyKing website.
Skyzone Plug-N-Play FPV 200mW-Set
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They both look like decent kits that would work well with the recent Quanum DIY FPV Goggles

I'm ordering a kit, but what do you think?

Skyzone PNP FPV TX/RX Set - HobbyKing Daily (7 min 47 sec)

Below are the specs from Hobbyking:

Skyzone 200mW
Features:
• Plug-n-Play connection no soldering required
• Circular Polarized Antenna set included(LHCP)
• 32 channels: Cover A, B, E bands and F bands
• Two switching buttons for the band and channel with LED display on VRX
• Power off memory for last channel and band
• dual Independent video and audio signal outputs
• Micro sized VTX and light weight - perfect for use with small models
• 32 channels: Cover A, B, E bands and F bands
• Transmitter frequency: 5645-5945MHz with 200mW power output
• Transmitting distance > ~1500m (open area)
• 480TVL Sony CCD FPV camera

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TS5823 V2 VTX Specs:
Modulate: Wideband FM Modulate
Video Format: NTSC/PAL
Output Impedance: 50 Ohm
Output Power: 23~24dBm
Channel: 32CH
Operating Voltage: 7V~24V
Supply Current: 190mA
Audio Carrier Frequency: 6.5MHz
Connector: RP-SMA
Dimension: 40mm x 23mm x 8mm
Weight: 8g (without antenna)

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RC832 Receiver Specs:
Antenna connection: RP-SMA
Power input: 12V
Antenna impedance: 50Ω
Rx sensitivity -90dBm
Video impedance: 75Ω
Video format: NTSC/PAL auto
Dimension: 80x 65 x15mm

Camera Specs:
Sensor: 1/3 Sony CCD
Resolution: 480TVL
Illumination: 0.01lux
Power: 7~13v (3s)

Antenna Specs:
Polarization: left hand(LHCP)
dbi gain: 1.5

Included:
TS5823 5.GHz 200mW 32CH A/V transmitter
RC832 32CH Video receiver
30x30mm 480TVL Sony CCD camera
Circular Polarized antenna set (LHCP)
GoPRO USB to A/V cable (for using GoPRO as A/V input)
Plug-n-Play cable set for camera and VTX
XT60 power Y Wire set for receiver and goggles
Standard power wire set
A/V Cable set (RCA)
Standard wire lead
Balance plug to JST for CAM/VTX power
Spare DIY A/V cables

Frequency range:
FR1 5865,5845,5825,5805,5785,5765,5745,5725
FR2 5733,5752,5771,5790,5809,5828,5847,5866
FR3 5707,5685,5665,5645,5885,5905,5925,5945
FR4 5740,5760,5780,5800,5820,5840,5860,5880

Skyzone 500mW
Features:
• Plug-n-Play connection no soldering required
• Circular Polarized Antenna set included(LHCP)
• 32 channels: Cover A, B, E bands and F bands
• Two switching buttons for the band and channel with LED display on VRX
• Power off memory for last channel and band
• dual Independent video and audio signal outputs
• Micro sized 500mw VTX - perfect for use with small models
• 32 channels: Cover A, B, E bands and F bands
• Transmitter frequency: 5645-5945MHz with 500mW power output
• Long range transmitting distance
• 700TVL Sony CCD FPV camera

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TS58500 V2 VTX Specs:
Modulate: Wideband FM Modulate
Power: 500mW
Video Format: NTSC/PAL
Output Impedance: 50 Ohm
Output Power: 26~27dBm
Channel: 32CH
Operating Voltage: 7V~24V
Supply Current: 220mA
Audio Carrier Frequency: 6.5MHz
Connector: RP-SMA
Dimension: 42mm x 23mm x 8mm
Weight: 19g (without antenna)

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RC832 Receiver Specs:
Antenna connection: RP-SMA
Power input: 12V
Antenna impedance: 50Ω
Rx sensitivity -90dBm
Video impedance: 75Ω
Video format: NTSC/PAL auto
Dimension: 80x 65 x15mm

Camera Specs:
Sensor: 1/3 Sony 960H CCD
Resolution: 700TVL
Illumination: 0.01lux
Power: 7~13v (3s)

Antenna Specs:
Polarization: left hand (LHCP)
dbi gain: 1.5

Included:
TS58500 5.GHz 500mW 32CH A/V transmitter
RC832 32CH Video receiver
30x30mm 480TVL Sony CCD camera
Circular Polarized antenna set (LHCP)
GoPRO USB to A/V cable (for using GoPRO as A/V input)
Plug-n-Play cable set for camera and VTX
XT60 power Y Wire set for receiver and goggles
Standard power wire set
A/V Cable set (RCA)
Standard wire lead
Balance plug to JST for CAM/VTX power
Spare DIY A/V cables

Frequency range:
FR1 5865,5845,5825,5805,5785,5765,5745,5725
FR2 5733,5752,5771,5790,5809,5828,5847,5866
FR3 5707,5685,5665,5645,5885,5905,5925,5945
FR4 5740,5760,5780,5800,5820,5840,5860,5880
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Old Sep 29, 2014, 11:58 PM
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The kit you mentioned is reasonable at a reasonable price but if you want good stuff I have included some comments below:

TS58500 5.GHz 500mW 32CH A/V transmitter Should be OK but I have these
http://www.surveilzone.com/5.8g-600m...ver-kit-ws1153


RC832 32CH Video receiver GREAT

30x30mm 480TVL Sony CCD camera RUBBISH only 480TVL This is good small camera but just change the colours with the OSD
Surveilzone.com have stacks of good cameras. This is 600TVL. http://www.surveilzone.com/DC5V-plas...m-lens-for-fpv


Circular Polarized antenna set (LHCP) No good for later as most stuff is RHCP Your range will be limited with these. I just got the following antenna which is good for a few Klm and a wide 120 degree. It is very expensive but get it when you find the others are no good. Always get Right Hand Polarised http://www.readymaderc.com/store/ind...oducts_id=1132

This receiver is unbelievable for 200mw and it is close to the 600MW one for range. over 1.5 klm with perfect video is achievable with a quadcopter even. Only buy from Surveilzone as they have the updated model. http://www.surveilzone.com/mini-5.8g...ter-fpv-ws1174


I have two receivers on a tripod with diversity to get good range for 360 degree close in and long distance but have just got the cross hair antenna on the goggles at the moment and seems like all I need.


GoPRO USB to A/V cable (for using GoPRO as A/V input)
Plug-n-Play cable set for camera and VTX
XT60 power Y Wire set for receiver and goggles
Standard power wire set
A/V Cable set (RCA)
Standard wire lead
Balance plug to JST for CAM/VTX power
Spare DIY A/V cables
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Old Sep 30, 2014, 06:50 PM
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Any input on the cam that comes with the 500mW kit? It says it's a 1/3 sony 960H, then again lower it says 480tvl. I'm bet someone entered in error

What's wrong with left hand polarized? As long as you are using both the same direction I have heard good things. Especially if someone is flying RH on a freq close to yours while you are on LH.

That readymaderc antenna is crazy defiantly pricey but it's 10dbic

I have also heard a rumor that this USB A/V cable will not work for live video out from möbius? Can anyone confirm this?
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Old Sep 30, 2014, 11:35 PM
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It seems like the 480tvl is incorrect. (we hope) So looks like the camera is good.

I bought this one first as I saw someone using it out over 3klm but the beam width is only 35 degrees which would be too hard for me to keep the plane in the beam.
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...3dBi_Gain.html
When I put it on the tripod is was all right but 120 beam width of the cross hair one and a LONG range will do me. It also does behind just enough.

I'll go back and try a SPW (four leaf clover) on the receiver and see how good it is as I do have some dearer and better antennas now.

This is the reason you should only buy right hand polarized antennas.
Right Hand
http://www.readymaderc.com/store/ind...th=11_45_49_97

Left Hand ONLY TWO
http://www.readymaderc.com/store/ind...h=11_45_49_414

That should convince you but if you are using the same direction that is all right. Buy the kit and it will be a good start for you and you can buy better stuff when the current stuff you have does not do what you want it to do.

Actually these antennas with the kit may be all right as you will be using a 500mw TX. We mainly had problems with the 200mw TX until the recent Skyzone 200mw TX which is great. But my more expensive antennas did make a big difference.

I do not have a möbius so can not comment on that.


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Any input on the cam that comes with the 500mW kit? It says it's a 1/3 sony 960H, then again lower it says 480tvl. I'm bet someone entered in error

What's wrong with left hand polarized? As long as you are using both the same direction I have heard good things. Especially if someone is flying RH on a freq close to yours while you are on LH.

That readymaderc antenna is crazy defiantly pricey but it's 10dbic

I have also heard a rumor that this USB A/V cable will not work for live video out from möbius? Can anyone confirm this?
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Actually these antennas with the kit may be all right as you will be using a 500mw TX. We mainly had problems with the 200mw TX until the recent Skyzone 200mw TX which is great. But my more expensive antennas did make a big difference.
You have had good experience with the SkyZone? I just got one and it stinks. Swapped out the RC805 for the SZ rc305 and range dropped to 50 meters. If you have had a few and are happy with the reception, maybe I just got a bad one.

I know the 32 channels sound great, but aren't the CIRCULAR POLARIZED antennae tuned to a very narrow band making 25 or so channels useless?
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Old Oct 02, 2014, 03:53 AM
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I just typed up a long post to you but I accidentally push a wrong button and &^%*&^%$%$%$$ lost it.

I'll get back to it as soon as I can. Just have to do a few things.

I was ready to chuck all the 5.8ghz stuff in a couple of months ago but all is working great now after a few more purchases.

I'll type it again soon but what antennas were you using getting 50 metres.

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You have had good experience with the SkyZone? I just got one and it stinks. Swapped out the RC805 for the SZ rc305 and range dropped to 50 meters. If you have had a few and are happy with the reception, maybe I just got a bad one.

I know the 32 channels sound great, but aren't the CIRCULAR POLARIZED antennae tuned to a very narrow band making 25 or so channels useless?
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I just typed up a long post to you but I accidentally push a wrong button and &^%*&^%$%$%$$ lost it.

I'll get back to it as soon as I can. Just have to do a few things.

I was ready to chuck all the 5.8ghz stuff in a couple of months ago but all is working great now after a few more purchases.

I'll type it again soon but what antennas were you using getting 50 metres.
OOOH man! I hate that. Bin there Dun that.

Set up was with dipole stock antennae, boscam Tx, Skyzone Rx. When I used the less than optimal ( I know now) 805 I could get 1000meters but with some breaking up. All I did was swap out the 805 for the 305 and range died. Well, never even got off the ground. I think the problem was a dead Rx because I replaced the dipoles with some CP and no difference. I also double checked the freq's making sure they matched.

It's just after two duds, well, the 805 wasn't terrible, just inconsistent picture. I want to make sure the next one is a good choice. I want to use RP-SMA though because I just bought some FatShark CP antennae to replace the cheap CP's I bought.

I am also considering getting a Lightbridge and running 2.4 control and HD video from it.
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Old Oct 02, 2014, 07:22 AM
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OOOH man! I hate that. Bin there Dun that.

Set up was with dipole stock antennae, boscam Tx, Skyzone Rx. When I used the less than optimal ( I know now) 805 I could get 1000meters but with some breaking up. All I did was swap out the 805 for the 305 and range died. Well, never even got off the ground. I think the problem was a dead Rx because I replaced the dipoles with some CP and no difference. I also double checked the freq's making sure they matched.

It's just after two duds, well, the 805 wasn't terrible, just inconsistent picture. I want to make sure the next one is a good choice. I want to use RP-SMA though because I just bought some FatShark CP antennae to replace the cheap CP's I bought.

I am also considering getting a Lightbridge and running 2.4 control and HD video from it.

I was going to say up in my first post above that Immersion is better than Boscam but he seemed to like Boscam. From what I have heard Immersion has some problems anyway but nothing major.

There is nothing wrong with the RC305 receivers but you can get a good picture close up but unless you have the switches in the right position you do not get long distance. That may be a problem you are having but range is all in what antennas you are using.

I do not think you need to spend $1,500 on LightBridge. If you do what frequency are you going to use for the controlling TX like I have a Futaba 9C which is also 2.4ghz like the LightBridge. Anyway the cost would take that out of the question.

I was going to chuck 5.8ghz away a few months ago but all is going well now that I have spent money on good antennas. Probably the FatShark are just all right antennas and not really the best. I am using a cheap antenna on my Blackout quad but with a cross hair antenna and getting impressive range with a RC 305 velcroed to my cap and wires going to my FatShark old model goggles.,

If you like spending money this one is IMPRESSIVE. It is DEFINITELY worth getting. http://www.truerc.net/canada/index.p...roducts_id=212

I bought this lot and this SPW would be brilliant. http://www.truerc.net/canada/index.p...roducts_id=213

I have not tried that SPW yet but I am using a similar one from another one that cost about $75 delivered.

I have this setup on my Bixler and getting about 1.5klm of good video with the cross hair antenna. http://www.surveilzone.com/5.8g-600m...ver-kit-ws1153


This 200MW TX is BRILLIANT and seems to be almost the range of my 600mw TX. A mate has a video of his mini quad doing 1.5klm and still perfect video and with GOOD antennas.
http://www.surveilzone.com/mini-5.8g...ter-fpv-ws1174 Just fixed this link.

You can forget about the standard dipole if you want range. I use RP-SMA also.

The good thing about the Cross hair antenna is that it has range and the beam width is 120 degrees which I like. This FatShark one I got gives you range but the bean width is only 35 degrees. I did not buy this one from HK, I got it elsewhere as this one is a Left Hand polarized one. http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...3dBi_Gain.html

So I did not like the 35 degrees beam width. What sold me on the cross hair was a bloke gave me his goggles when he had his plane on auto-pilot and I could turn my head 120 degrees and still get a good picture. He just had a cross hair sitting on the goggles.

I have been using diversity and four receivers on a tripod as I had to change from one set of two to the other when I used different TX frequencies. Now I only have two RC 832s as they do all frequencies.

Now with my RC 305 on my cap connected to my goggles I have been flying with great range on my quad I will try flying my Bixler a long distance and see how it goes. It should work good and much simpler not having to set up a tripod etc.

I use "A" frequencies as they seem to give the best distance.

Not sure if the 805 receivers are too good but I did say in another post they were great. They might be but not sure.

Those FatSharks you have put the SPW on the plane and the cross hair antenna and you will get a great distance with great video. But you did not say what exact Boscam TX you have. You do not buy Clover Leaf antennas any more as SPW (four leaf clover) works better on the the plane and the RX.

I think I have been jumping around everywhere with this post but if I have not covered anything let me know.
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I was going to say up in my first post above that Immersion is better than Boscam but he seemed to like Boscam. From what I have heard Immersion has some problems anyway but nothing major.
Thanks for the reply. My issue isn't with range as such, but the dismal performance of my Skyzone rc305 compared to the poorly designed rc805. The video cables are right beside the antenna instead of the other end of the unit like the 305. Also, I have read that there is no coax in the unit which also allows interference. The 305 has coax.

I am using a 200mW Skyzone or Boscam don't now which because nobody has the courage to badge their products except Immersion.

I did state, or maybe it was another thread, the dips are correct, I only swapped out the Rx from 805 to 305 and lost signal outside about 50'. My inquiries were simply to get a guage of the quality of Skyzone vs other no name brands.

I may get a CP patch for the Rx or one of Alex's creations. I think I read he has a one that has 180 degree swath. A double blue pepper, or a pepper blue double box or a double pepper beam hammer biquad or something. LOL.
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I just have a few seconds to reply now but will further reply later. Those pepper antennas would be great but I can not fault the cross hair.

If you have the latest shape 200mW Skyzone that looks like in the photo there is a problem with that one with static unless you bought a recent one since July from SurveilZone. The ones from Surveilzone have the modification to fix it.
http://www.surveilzone.com/mini-5.8g...ter-fpv-ws1174

As you say you do not know what it is it sounds like it is not the one above.

I have just bought a second one as my first one was brilliant.

So if you get a patch make sure it is the polarisation you require either left or right. If you have left CLs now I would still buy a right polarised patch and move over to right CL/SPW as there is more selection with those.



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Thanks for the reply. My issue isn't with range as such, but the dismal performance of my Skyzone rc305 compared to the poorly designed rc805. The video cables are right beside the antenna instead of the other end of the unit like the 305. Also, I have read that there is no coax in the unit which also allows interference. The 305 has coax.

I am using a 200mW Skyzone or Boscam don't now which because nobody has the courage to badge their products except Immersion.

I did state, or maybe it was another thread, the dips are correct, I only swapped out the Rx from 805 to 305 and lost signal outside about 50'. My inquiries were simply to get a guage of the quality of Skyzone vs other no name brands.

I may get a CP patch for the Rx or one of Alex's creations. I think I read he has a one that has 180 degree swath. A double blue pepper, or a pepper blue double box or a double pepper beam hammer biquad or something. LOL.
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Here is the one I have. I see the board (TS2501) does not say 58200 like the paperwork with it. The other side is just a heat sync.

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I increased the performance of the video with a Right Hand Polarised cross hair antenna and increased the distance with perfect video considerably.

I would get one of those or similar ones you mentioned. Remember they are directional and most do not work too good if you accidentally go behind you. If you do it is a crash. With the gear on my head now I can turn around.

If getting more gear go for :

200mw TX
http://www.surveilzone.com/mini-5.8g...ter-fpv-ws1174

600mw TX
http://www.surveilzone.com/5.8g-600m...-fpv-tx-ws1159

With that gear you may not need diversity and two receivers and antennas as I have had to use with my old gear.

My RC305, new 200mw TX and cross hair antenna is working great with the RX on a cap and goggles on and hoping that will work great on my big plane. There is no way it should not.

When I was having the problem I fitted out two planes with autopilots so that they will return by themselves if I have video problems. I bought cheaper autopilots that do not have any setup but I guess my APM 2.5 will take a long time to set up.

All the best with it.
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Thanks for your post, I will try mini 200mW, it is so small
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Possible batteries

Hi guys I see you've been very active on this thread. I was wondering if this setup can be run using a 4s battery? I know i would need to use an ubec to step down the voltage but would the power cable fit into the balance board of a 4s battery?
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Hi guys I see you've been very active on this thread. I was wondering if this setup can be run using a 4s battery? I know i would need to use an ubec to step down the voltage but would the power cable fit into the balance board of a 4s battery?
many thanks
With the mini Tx you don't need to step down, its range is 7 to 24v and will work on a 6s.
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