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Old May 18, 2012, 03:41 PM
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Help identify this aircraft

Curious what this aircraft is, my friend snapped a photo of it near the runway in Maui a few days ago.

Thanks,
Matt
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Old May 20, 2012, 04:25 PM
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My guess, based on wing shape and apparent rotating (i.e., P-40-style retracts) is that it's part of a Skyraider (AD-1, A1, all sorts of names -- they were a long-lived, reliable and versatile bird). Any idea of what the original paint colors are, or if there are any manufacturer's info plates on what is left?

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Old Jun 11, 2012, 11:07 PM
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I wouldn't have the wildest clue what it is but to me it looks too small to be a SPAD. My two cents.
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Old Jun 12, 2012, 08:57 AM
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I agree, it does look too small to be an AD. I'd like some more info about it; i.e., is the gear retractable? Are there any data plates?
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Old Jun 18, 2012, 12:54 AM
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Looks like a Sabre.
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Old Jun 19, 2012, 07:40 PM
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Why guess? If it is "near the runway in Maui", the logical method to identify the wreckage would first be to ask the Maui airport authorities.

I'm sure they would know the story behind any aircraft remains near the runway. They tend to be interested in things like that.
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Old Jun 19, 2012, 10:48 PM
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Those blue flames do ,for some reason, remind me of a Sabre. But I still think it's too small for something like that also. But my wife tells me I've been wrong before.

Are we, btw, looking at the same airplane in both pictures??
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Old Jun 21, 2012, 07:46 PM
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Hi guys, here's why I think it's a Sabre;
First pic is from the right side of a swept wing F-86 that has the forward fuselage chewed off as well as the right wing at about 60% out. Note the canopy rails and seat rails on whats left of the nose area.
The second picture is of the same airplane with it's vertically oriented main gear, nearly no dihedral wing and flat bottomed cross section fuselage, complete with round hole in the "firewall" section (I think it's stainless) for the intake air.
I bet that the airport authorities know absolutely nothing factual about it being there. Only some local aviation enthusiasts!
Chris...
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Old Jun 22, 2012, 09:26 AM
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F86 is the only airplane of that vintage that I can think of that the main landing gear strut is outboard of the wheel. There may others, but I can't think of any.
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Old Jun 22, 2012, 02:56 PM
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I would have to respectfully disagree that we are looking at the right side of the fuselage. If you click on and enlarge the first picture it appears the blue flames are travelling towards the right, so the nose would be to the left. Unless the flames were painted on backward, every flame job I've ever seen had the large part at the front of the vehicle. ie. Sabre, hot rod, motorcycle etc.

However, my wife reminds me daily I have been wrong before.
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Old Jun 22, 2012, 06:06 PM
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Hi guys,

When the surf culture has been blowin' weed around that wreck for 50 years, I think they may have started that graffiti going the wrong direction. The airplane wasn't civilian with a flame job, I've been following Warbirds since the 60's and would've remembered one in Maui, that crashed, and that was painted in a flame job!

Check the gas cap locations on the top right wing and forward right side fuselage with this picture.

My buddy is an AA Captain that flies there regularly, maybe he'll ask where it is and find it and a data plate, that'll probably say NAA, Inglewood, CA.

Chris...



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Old Jun 23, 2012, 09:37 AM
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The plot thickens.
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Old Jul 09, 2012, 08:22 PM
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F 86

I went and looked at a F86 that I have access to and I'm certain that this is one. The graffiti flames are backwards. When holding the pic by this plane it is easy to see. The lug on the gear leg lines up perfectly. The hole in the side lines up with an access panel. The round panel hole on the side is in the correct spot. The round access panel on the wing also lines up.
If you follow the angled line going up from the leading edge of the wing, it would have gone right through the pilot seat.
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Old Jul 10, 2012, 04:39 PM
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So now we want to find out how the wreck got there, no?
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Old Jul 13, 2012, 11:27 AM
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best way to the crash site...

I think it flew in.
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