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Old Aug 23, 2010, 05:48 PM
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To sim or not to sim, that is the question

I vote no.
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Old Aug 23, 2010, 06:03 PM
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If you plan on ever flying 3D then you need a sim. For basic sport flying you can get along without one.

Attempting 3D without a sim will result in a whole lot of crashing and expensive repairs.

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Old Aug 23, 2010, 06:21 PM
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+1 for SIM. Just got Phoenix RC 4 days ago. I would never try 3D with my Heli first.
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Old Aug 23, 2010, 06:53 PM
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Just like Beevous said,JUST DO IT! TOO MUCH FARTIN' AROUND. I'm a video game player,just turned 50 yesterday. But with a heli,go out and fly.That's what we did in the 'olden days'. MAN-UP!! LOL
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Old Aug 23, 2010, 07:48 PM
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To me a Sim is like.....one of those blow up dolls.................I prefer the real deal.
A*s,grass or cash...no one rides for free...lol

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Old Aug 23, 2010, 07:51 PM
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Think about how much time you'll spend "FARTIN' AROUND" fixing the thing when you crash over and over. I'd much rather just push reset on the controller and try again.

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Old Aug 23, 2010, 07:53 PM
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Got in a tank on the old raptor and 2 batts on theCP Pro, no crashes but was wondering if a simulator can duplicate a large beetle hitting just 1 main blade, throwing it out of balance, that would be some good practice there. Always wondered how they only stick to 1 blade.
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Old Aug 23, 2010, 07:54 PM
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Think about how much time you'll spend "FARTIN' AROUND" fixing the thing when you crash over and over. I'd much rather just push reset on the controller and try again.

Dan
Didn't know "Staples" sold rc helis.
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Old Aug 23, 2010, 08:05 PM
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I was never a big fan of sims my self till I took the time to spend a few hours using one , then I seen that it had a lot of capability and now I have a respect for sims . If your going to compare a sim with real life for me it doesn’t , but what it does do is train your brain movements and how the heli moves around in that space , this is great for practice learning new moves ect . You could spend along time learning if you crash you could spend a few days on a sim and learn what ever it is you want , then take it to real life .
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Old Aug 23, 2010, 08:36 PM
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My guess... All you guys who don't like sims are just old! We all know old people and technology don't mix. Just keep using your typewriter gramps, I'm sure it works just as well for you.

In all seriousness I think that a sim is a very useful tool for practicing advanced 3D maneuvers before attempting them on the real thing. However when you're just starting out I think you'll have a LOT more fun if you just buy a small, durable, micro heli, or series of them (i.e. coax->45*->90*), and fly for real. A sim is really only necessary when you get to the point where you're trying maneuvers which could result in the complete destruction of the heli if you fail.

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Old Aug 23, 2010, 08:48 PM
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I think you're right about being old! I'm 44 and I vote NO on sim. But really the reason for that is I'm on the computer all day. Why go home and spend my free time on the computer? Doesn't make sense to me.

What about using a Hirobo Quark SRB SG for learning 3D instead of a sim.
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Old Aug 23, 2010, 09:39 PM
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I vote yes for 3D. For hovering and general flying
you may not don't need it but it can be very helpful.
I learned a lot without a sim but the sim did help me out big time on
some things.
I can fly around at will, go inverted, do flips and rolls, figure 8's,
and more on the sim but can't do all this in real flight at least not yet.
I can hover in all 4 directions, fly circles both directions, fly circuits,
do figure 8's, and fly around trees at this time. This is a combination of learning
with and without the sim.
Funny thing is that a couple things I can do in real life I can't do
on the sim or have a very hard time doing them...Hmm...?

The sim is great for hand to eye training.

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Old Aug 23, 2010, 09:40 PM
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Pretty much what Dan said. (you have certainly taken to this hobby and done plenty of research aka helicrack is flowing through the veins nicely!)

Remember how hard it was to hover a 90* FP heli initially. I found learning inverted hover to be just as hard...but the easy part about the initial upright hover training...the skids are between the heli and the ground.

Sure you can do the "fly two mistakes high" but that kinda requires a 450 or larger at least....and larger helis give you time to think a little. I prefer the smaller helis.

Learning inverted with a 4g3 and a Gaui 200 necessitated a Sim for me (RF4.5). Currently trying to learn piro flips and I love the virtual dirt!

One thing with sims though...you really have to "pretend" you are flying for real. Fly tight and within normal flight boundaries, and consider what caused your crashes etc.

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Old Aug 23, 2010, 11:14 PM
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Dunno Only a very few SIMS are worth the disc they come on. Many ARE video games and at best are only good for learning (observing?) control reversal.
Problem is the 'Good ' sims cost as much as a decent heli.
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Old Aug 24, 2010, 01:00 AM
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What about using a Hirobo Quark SRB SG for learning 3D instead of a sim.
+1
I could not fly any heli on sim until I experienced flying a Hirobo Quark.
OTOH, the sim helped me learn flying the GAUI 200.
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