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Old Nov 11, 2014, 11:36 AM
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Why so little interest in the FMS L-13 or Moa?

A lot of folks seemed very interested in the larger (90 inch) Hobby King Blanik L-13 but not in it's smaller version the FMS LET -13 (59 inch).

Why is that? Is there some kind of prejudice against the 1.5 meter gliders or against FMS?

Full disclosure: I will not order anything from HK based on the rants I read in this forum about long shipping times and extremely poor customer support. So I guess I have some prejudice of my own.
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Old Nov 11, 2014, 01:49 PM
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re: FMS L-13 ... mediocre 1500mm foam glider and for the price not a bad buy. The MotionRC flight report on it is not glowing but not bad either.

http://www.motionrc.com/fms-l-13-gli...-wingspan-pnp/

For my taste, silver is not a color I care for on a glider, it is a bit small and the YouTube vids do show just how small it gets when only several hundred feet high. Power system is limited to a 2s battery and that will bother some. My family having actually owned a full scale L-13 so I hate to see a motor on a L-13 model.

If one where given to me, I would remove the motor and make it a sloper.
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Old Nov 11, 2014, 02:12 PM
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re: FMS L-13 ... mediocre 1500mm foam glider and for the price not a bad buy. The MotionRC flight report on it is not glowing but not bad either.

http://www.motionrc.com/fms-l-13-gli...-wingspan-pnp/

For my taste, silver is not a color I care for on a glider, it is a bit small and the YouTube vids do show just how small it gets when only several hundred feet high. Power system is limited to a 2s battery and that will bother some. My family having actually owned a full scale L-13 so I hate to see a motor on a L-13 model.

If one where given to me, I would remove the motor and make it a sloper.

Thanks for your reply. The 2s battery is 1300mah and that will give it a 7 or 8 minute motor run which is plenty for an electric glider. I do understand your comment about removing the motor making it a sloper, I think it would be a much better sloper than a thermal ship but I no longer live near a good slope location.

BTW, since this is an Electric Sailplane thread, I'm surprised you are frequenting it since you seem opposed to motors, or did I misunderstand your comment?

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Old Nov 11, 2014, 02:25 PM
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BTW, since this is an Electric Sailplane thread, I'm surprised you are frequenting it since you seem opposed to motors, or did I misunderstand your comment?

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Yes, you misunderstood the comment.

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1950043

Start at post 42.
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Old Nov 11, 2014, 04:19 PM
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I've got the Hobbyking version of the Minimoa and while it's not my best floater, it's one of my favorites for pretty, I guess I'm just a sucker for gull wings. ;]
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Old Nov 12, 2014, 03:01 AM
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Maybe because there is Bird of Time
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Old Nov 12, 2014, 04:12 AM
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re: FMS L-13 ... mediocre 1500mm foam glider and for the price not a bad buy. The MotionRC flight report on it is not glowing but not bad either.

http://www.motionrc.com/fms-l-13-gli...-wingspan-pnp/

For my taste, silver is not a color I care for on a glider, it is a bit small and the YouTube vids do show just how small it gets when only several hundred feet high. Power system is limited to a 2s battery and that will bother some. My family having actually owned a full scale L-13 so I hate to see a motor on a L-13 model.

If one where given to me, I would remove the motor and make it a sloper.
I learned to fly in a Blanik winch launching. Very fond memories if a bit vague after over 35 years. Although I do recall lots of short flights as we were at a coastal site with cool sea breezes = no thermals, not that far from a big airport = constrained airspace.
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Old Nov 12, 2014, 03:44 PM
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I think it's mostly due to size. At 1.5 meters with a scale paint job and power system it's pretty hard to get great soaring performance. Plus, if one does catch a good ride, the silver paint is not a great choice for visibility at any size.
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Old Dec 24, 2014, 03:56 PM
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Owned it now for about nine months and find it's power system (2S & up to 1800 Mah) to be very strong.
Not a great thermaling bird but good, even with the motor.
So good that I am adding flaps on a new set of wings to see how much more I can get out of it. I've used 1800 MAH battery and flown for a good 35 minutes in moderate thermal conditions, coming down with about 14% battery power left over.
Must agree, silver is not my first choice for color either.
Good value for the money, so by it and modify to your liking is my recommendation.

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Old Dec 24, 2014, 08:31 PM
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Knowing that my dad always gives $ for Christmas, I ordered myself a FMS Moa. It made it's 6th flight today.

I like it. I love the shape of those gull wings.
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Old Dec 25, 2014, 11:08 PM
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I had a lot of fun with the Moa this morning. The family was still asleep so I slipped out and flew for about an hour in 25 (F) weather. With only a light breeze, and the sun shining bright, it really wasn't all that bad.

I have three 2S 1,300mah batteries. With the Taranis voltage telemetry to know what is going on, I was getting about 18 minutes of flight time with climbing/gliding, climbing/gliding before getting down to 3.4v per cell.

I found out that with a bit of a dive/fly-by, I can even get a satisfactory "woosh" sound as it floats past. I just love that sound.

I'm new to flying, and I realize I don't know much .... but I'm really enjoying this little glider.

I felt kind of silly when this arrived. I ordered it from MotionRC and it arrived with the airplane box inside a shipping box. I opened the flaps to the shipping box and inside was the L-13. I called Motion to let them know they sent me the wrong one. He asked if I had taken it out of the shipping box yet. I said "No". He said go ahead and take it out and turn the airplane box over. I did that, and there on the other side of the box was the Moa. Apparently they use the same box for both planes. I apologized for wasting his time, but he was gracious and assured me I wasn't the first to call about that.
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Hey There,
I have just got my first glider - LET 13. I have no experience and took it out for a flight - three short flights later - crash. Repaired now but cautious and would like to know if you have any advice about a simulator that I can train on so I don't ruin the glider?

I have a free FMS simulator and am using a radian pro model on that. Just checking if you guys have something that flies like/close to the real thing?

Appreciate any advice.
Thanks
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Crashboy, start with a UMX Radian! They fly themselves practically and will give you hours of friendly thumb time while your getting your skills sorted out.

I bought my FMS Moa , just to have a small airpark runabout, finished building it yesterday and was very happy with quality and fit! Looks well thought out, field assembly is going to be a bit fiddly! Looks nice.

To stay on topic, it's too small for much wind, too small to see well if you do stumble into some decent thermals, scale planes rarely turn into decent thermal hunters, as was mentioned before, park flying and slope soaring will use them at their best, but I'd still leave the motor in for return insurance!
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