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Old Feb 07, 2016, 02:14 PM
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I saw that Steve posted theMAN Pizonia on Outerzone today. This model really caught my eye. I did some more research and came across the Aero Modelismo plan and article from 49'. It contains all the details left out of the MAN plan such as the formers, anhedral & dihedral detail. I also came across some fantastic pictures of an electric RC and 1/2a FF version. Anyway, I cleaned & scaled the plan and included the photos. Thanks Steve for posting a unique model!
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Old Feb 10, 2016, 11:21 PM
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That Pizonia looks like it would be a nice flyer T/P. Another slightly odd and interesting design is the La-Libellule glider. Sounds French?..........Fizzle
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Old Feb 10, 2016, 11:56 PM
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I saw a picture of one at a meet somewhere in Europe, and always wondered what it was. Thanks so much for posting. Biplane glider, who'd a thought!
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Old Feb 11, 2016, 01:30 AM
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Yeah, this is a well-known French glider. I'm sure I've seen the plan on the French "Retroplane" site.
This copy looks like it was a free plan in the MRA magazine of November 1948.
I had some contact with the designer (Jacques Bluzat) around thirty years ago, but I think he's no longer with us.
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Old Feb 11, 2016, 04:14 AM
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That Pizonia looks like it would be a nice flyer T/P. Another slightly odd and interesting design is the La-Libellule glider. Sounds French?..........Fizzle
Found in my to be sorted folder.
The wingspan given on the plan is 730 cm which would make it 24 ft span.
Well within the model making capabilities of most modellers

The dimensions given on the plan make no sense when the plan is scaled to the 5cm scale on the plan.
Perhaps someone else can throw a little more light on the model.
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Old Feb 11, 2016, 06:21 AM
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Found in my to be sorted folder.
The wingspan given on the plan is 730 cm which would make it 24 ft span.
Well within the model making capabilities of most modellers

The dimensions given on the plan make no sense when the plan is scaled to the 5cm scale on the plan.
Perhaps someone else can throw a little more light on the model.
The wingspan seems to me to be 170cm: French figure 1! The captions are in French.
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Old Feb 11, 2016, 07:38 AM
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Yes, I agree. The European "1" has quite a large "cap", whereas the "7" has a small horizontal bar halfway up, specifically to prevent confusion with the "1". The span given on the plan is, however 130 cm or about 51.2" and not 170 cm.
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Old Feb 11, 2016, 08:14 AM
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Here's another one I came across. Anyone recognize this? I have no idea, but it appears to be a nice electric conversion.
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Old Feb 11, 2016, 09:04 AM
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Here's another one I came across. Anyone recognize this? I have no idea, but it appears to be a nice electric conversion.
It's a model of the Avro 558 which was an entry in the 1923 Lympne light aircraft trials. The model is, probably a conversion of the rubber powered plan which is on the Hippocket Aeronautics plans gallery.

For anyone wanting to build a nice original lightweight scale park flyer the entry lists for either of the two Lympne trials (1923 and 1924) is a good place to look.
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Old Feb 11, 2016, 09:07 AM
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I reckon that's from the Stevens Aero site, see here - https://www.stevensaero.com/StevensA...or-Glider.html
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Yep, you're right Steve; the Hippocket plan is for a smaller rubber powered version.
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Old Feb 11, 2016, 11:36 AM
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Stevens Aero Avro 558 build log (plus a bit about my 560 )

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showt...light=avro+558

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Had a look at your Avro 560 and checked out your back catalogue of builds, they all look super neat and well finished Ray. I especially liked the Frog Scamp.
I spent an hour looking for a picture of a finished La-Libellule (just out of curiosity) but couldn't find one on the web.
This might be a dumb question, but does anyone know what is meant by the plan where it shows some kind of wood size like - ctp 30/10 or B.D.20/10 etc. I'm baffled!..........Fizzle.
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Old Feb 12, 2016, 02:02 AM
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I spent an hour looking for a picture of a finished La-Libellule (just out of curiosity) but couldn't find one on the web..
Me too! Hopefully someone will build one for us all to look at - now if I only had the time....


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does anyone know what is meant by the plan where it shows some kind of wood size like - ctp 30/10 or B.D.20/10 etc. I'm baffled!...........
I assumed that they are simply the sizes of the wood that the part needs to be cut from - a 30 x 10mm piece of sheet, or in the case of the longerons 2.5 x 2.5mm section (approx. 3/32" square). The BD & Ctp abbreviations are a mystery to me though - can any Francophones assist???
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BD balsa dur (hard balsa), perhaps ?
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