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Old Oct 23, 2014, 03:30 PM
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Question for first plane

I have read the threads on here and realize I should start with e.g. Super Cub S, Sport Cub S or a Champ.
Is it not easier to fly the Super Cub S due to it's size, I would personally think it would be easier to see due to it's size. It is easier on the Phoenix simulator flying it but maybe that is 3 vs 4 channel thing. I did ask a store about it and the guy said the Super Cub S requires a lot more room to fly it due to it's size. I have a DX6 so personally did not want to buy a Champ and have another tx laying around, seems kind of wasteful.
Anyone willing to spend there time giving me a response it would be appreciated
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Old Oct 23, 2014, 04:17 PM
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Old Oct 23, 2014, 04:33 PM
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I have read the threads on here and realize I should start with e.g. Super Cub S, Sport Cub S or a Champ.
Is it not easier to fly the Super Cub S due to it's size, I would personally think it would be easier to see due to it's size. It is easier on the Phoenix simulator flying it but maybe that is 3 vs 4 channel thing. I did ask a store about it and the guy said the Super Cub S requires a lot more room to fly it due to it's size. I have a DX6 so personally did not want to buy a Champ and have another tx laying around, seems kind of wasteful.
Anyone willing to spend there time giving me a response it would be appreciated
I personally like larger RC aircraft for flying outdoors ( easier to see for my 61 year old eyes ) . If your flying site has the room for the Super Cub S , go for that one . When you get comfortable flying the Super Cub S at faster speeds ( making turns with a greater degree of banking and some up elevator ) , then move up to a 4 channel plane .

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Old Oct 23, 2014, 04:36 PM
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And that's all that needs to be said. The Sport Cut S answers the need for SAFE and AS3X. It's small like a Champ and is BNF. Win, win, win. It doesn't get better than that!

Little planes are great because you can fly without a flying field. Bigger planes like the Super Cub S fly smoother and even though they are actually flying faster, they look like they're flying slower because of scale effect. The larger plane is easier to fly. The smaller plane gives you more stick time because you open your back door and chuck it in the air.

I think you need BOTH of them. Your wallet is doomed anyway.
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Old Oct 23, 2014, 04:54 PM
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And that's all that needs to be said. The Sport Cut S answers the need for SAFE and AS3X. It's small like a Champ and is BNF. Win, win, win. It doesn't get better than that!

Little planes are great because you can fly without a flying field. Bigger planes like the Super Cub S fly smoother and even though they are actually flying faster, they look like they're flying slower because of scale effect. The larger plane is easier to fly. The smaller plane gives you more stick time because you open your back door and chuck it in the air.

I think you need BOTH of them. Your wallet is doomed anyway.
I actually did think of buying both but figured that might be a little silly. I do have two kids!!
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Old Oct 23, 2014, 05:08 PM
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The BNF sport cub great deal . Nice back yard and street plane. The Champ at the price is still a deal as you see I have both. I do have a large plane too. Some people love micro's and some like big planes and some love both. But a small plane with safe for 99.00 was not even a option when I started flying. AS3X well help in a little wind. My larger plane make the large field out back seem small and it seems like it always in a turn. It only get flow about once every month or 2.
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Old Oct 23, 2014, 06:51 PM
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I actually did think of buying both but figured that might be a little silly. I do have two kids!!
If cost is the main drawback for getting more than one plane - consider doing what some of us do , which is building your own planes out of foam board from the Dollar Tree Store ( $1 a sheet ) . You can have an RC plane for a total cost of $30 or $40 including all the hardware and electronics ( even the receiver if you get DSM receivers from Lemon RX ) . And it is VERY satisfying to fly a plane you've built yourself !

Here are some Dollar Tree foam board planes I've built :

3 channel Slow Flyer

Lightweight 40" wingspan FT Old Fogey-ish (2 min 58 sec)


Quick and maneuverable Delta

Simplest simple delta (1 min 20 sec)
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Old Oct 23, 2014, 06:53 PM
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I actually did think of buying both but figured that might be a little silly. I do have two kids!!
That's one for each kid. Now you need a third for yourself!
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Old Oct 23, 2014, 07:32 PM
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If cost is the main drawback for getting more than one plane - consider doing what some of us do , which is building your own planes out of foam board from the Dollar Tree Store ( $1 a sheet ) . You can have an RC plane for a total cost of $30 or $40 including all the hardware and electronics ( even the receiver if you get DSM receivers from Lemon RX ) . And it is VERY satisfying to fly a plane you've built yourself !

Here are some Dollar Tree foam board planes I've built :

3 channel Slow Flyer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2Xyjy3fcpE

Quick and maneuverable Delta

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NeUSKLiAkSQ
Not on a budget, I have other expensive hobbies as well. I like the idea of getting both, that way if I crash one I still have one to fly. My only heli crashed (CX2 - yes I crashed, the heli didn't - ha!) and I am waiting for parts. I have also been flying the little Nano, I do not have the guts to get a 200 yet but have been looking at them, it will be the next quad I purchase. I use the Phoenix software and purchased a DX6. Hobbyzone loves me - ha!
I guess I am willing to try them all and then maybe narrow down what I like.
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Old Oct 23, 2014, 08:32 PM
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If you have a dx6, I would suggest the umx radian, it is easier than the Champ and looks beautiful in the sky.

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Old Oct 23, 2014, 08:58 PM
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If you have a dx6, I would suggest the umx radian, it is easier than the Champ and looks beautiful in the sky.

Edmond
I do like the looks of that plane, I have flown the firebird on the simulator . 28" wingspan on the Radian, I have seen some Radian models at the store. Lots of good reviews for that plane, thanks for the info!

I ordered the Radian umx and the sport cub, both bind n fly from Horizon.

Thanks for the help!
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It's amazing how many great beginner planes there are available today for the novice flyer, most of them from Horizon Hobby's HobbyZone brand. You made a good choice getting the UMX Radian and the SportCub S. Let us know how your maiden flights go.
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Old Oct 24, 2014, 07:48 AM
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Just be careful rraming. NEVER pick a plane by how it flies in a simulator. Until they put inertial sensors and input sensors on a plane and use those hard numbers to produce a sim model, they won't BEGIN to achieve realistic sim flight.

A simulator can, at best, be looked at as a generic flight training device. That's not all bad, as you will buy plenty of planes and every one of them will fly differently. Learning to fly different configurations trains you in how to approach unknown planes and you will have fewer problems as a result. But don't make the mistake of saying "this plane flies great in the simulator--I'm going to buy one."

They're entirely different and actually unrelated beasties. A simulator model to the actual plane is a painting to the objects painted. They are artistic constructs only.

As for the planes you're buying you'll love them both!
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Old Oct 24, 2014, 09:43 AM
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That is great info because I read some where, with the Phoenix simulator, they were using it as a "try a plane before you buy it" approach (that might have been on hobby zone's website but I am not sure).
It will be a 5-7 day wait to get them, I saved $25 (survey money and they had $10 off on the website) so that is pretty inexpensive and free shipping so it didn't pay to run over to hobby zone today and get them.
I will let you know how the first flight day goes, it's going to be 70 degree's here today which will most likely be the last 70 degree I see here for the next 6 months.
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Old Oct 24, 2014, 10:02 AM
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Two great planes to begin with. I fly with someone who has both of these planes and they fly beautifully.
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