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Old Apr 26, 2012, 10:58 PM
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Well......
I am happy with the $15 CS10 just as it comes. I don't pay one cent more for adaptors etc, mine run totally fine just as they come (6 of them now). They might not be PERFECT, but I don't care, they run totally fine.
I buy $12 motors..... have 4S (F-15), 5S (Meteor/Habu) and 6S(Su-35) uses of those (all the same series $12 L2855 motor).
$27 total for each case.....

4S give 1.45Kg thrust, 5S 1.6Kg, 6S 1.8Kg.... of course varying currents which specific motor KV can alter the thrust/Amps if you want to also, and if you want more thrust you can get that too. And maybe they are a bit wasteful (yes they are - by 10% or so?), but as much as I hate to fly shorter time frames I am happy as long as I get 4 mins out of anything (that is high % WOT used). More than 4 minutes of one plane non-stop is a bore anyway! LOL
(Well I can bare out to 5 or 6 mins).

So for ALL of my uses I am paying under $30 for that better sound and each of those Cells and thrust levels. I can't even buy the Wemo fan unit itself for that! So to me these CS10's are totally fine.
Though if I compare them to a $6 70mm Haoye etc, which gets more thrust for less Amps, but with a terrible sound, then I have paid more for the sound quality 'gain'. $27 CS10 versus $20 Haoye..... still outrunning a Wemo/HET fan cost alone. And the $7 (and extra current draw) is worth it for the sound.

As for flying weight.... I totally DISAGREE with the premise that more weight is a negative. I consider it is a negative if you wanted a plane that can do things the 'real' version could not.... eg far more manouevarable, lower wing loading than the real one had. But I don't want that....
I want to fly a plane that ACTS like a real one, and SOUNDS like a real one.... if possible. eg An F-15 doe not run out 150metres (10x scaled up 15 metre model take off run) and leap into the air and go vertical!! But most models do that sort of 'incredible' take-off. The real aircraft also cannot land and stop within 200metres (20m model)... and have kilometres of landing approach, of a drawn out descent rate etc.
If you have a heavier model then you do head more towards that realism. And they land totally fine.... I have never had a 'bouncey' landing model, that is relative to HOW you land (and other factors too). Every one of my planes are a fair bit over the typical weight people post about.... and I think that gives better flight performance (penetration) and realism. Models are almost always TOO LIGHT.
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that is exactly what caught my attention . a low cost edf with a sweet turbine sound . im going the same route as you low cost electronic . but before i do i want to see one in action i have a completely stock banna hobby 70mm edf f18 if the CS with the HK 2855/3800 can give me the same performance (speed) id be happy to cough up the 30.00 or something bucks , if not my f18 is staying with the stock set up , i dont care if the edf is a knock off of someone elses design.i see it as a low cost edf going into a low cost edf plane . lets move on from this tit for tat , im only interested in what this edf can do with a 4s
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Old Apr 27, 2012, 03:10 PM
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you, Mark, and my self included, are investing our time and money to find out how to get the most out of it.
It is an excellent design; just not Change Sun's.

...It just bugs me.
But apparently not enough to stop you from using it...




ON TOPIC CONTENT:


Guess what the mailman brought today? Yup, the motor I need to complete my CS10 equipped RCLander F9F!

Woot!
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Old Apr 27, 2012, 04:02 PM
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But apparently not enough to stop you from using it...


It was provided to me free for testing, before it was brought to my attention of its pedigree. It's not being used.
Here, Johnny come lately:
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...&postcount=108
I've said what I wanted and am willing to let this drop. Are you?
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Old Apr 27, 2012, 04:25 PM
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It was provided to me free for testing, before it was brought to my attention of its pedigree. It's not being used.
Here, Johnny come lately:
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...&postcount=108
I've said what I wanted and am willing to let this drop. Are you?
There is nothing for *me* to 'drop'; I merely made a single, one-time, accurate observation, based on your own statement.

Now, you say you are not using it (out of protest, one presumes?)

Whatever.
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Old Apr 27, 2012, 05:36 PM
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Hey guys, could you please take your bickering too somewhere else, it is very boring
Why not start your own CS70 argument thread
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Old Apr 27, 2012, 06:44 PM
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Good idea, and from the looks of it it would be a very active thread.

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ON TOPIC CONTENT:
Guess what the mailman brought today? Yup, the motor I need to complete my CS10 equipped RCLander F9F!

Woot!
The CS-480/2500 is a Great motor track, I have two. Look for the balancing shallow drill marks on the metal tail cone(factory balanced). One of mine has 4 marks and the other has 1.
Make sure you run it on Low Timing!
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Old Apr 27, 2012, 07:26 PM
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The CS-480/2500 is a Great motor track, I have two. Look for the balancing shallow drill marks on the metal tail cone(factory balanced). One of mine has 4 marks and the other has 1.
Make sure you run it on Low Timing!
Thanks for the tip!

As a true noob, I only recently found out that low timing does not mean 'low performance'; that in fact if the motor runs there, then that's the correct timing and only go up if you have issues.

Thanks for the tip!
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Old Apr 27, 2012, 08:30 PM
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Good idea, and from the looks of it it would be a very active thread.



The CS-480/2500 is a Great motor track, I have two. Look for the balancing shallow drill marks on the metal tail cone(factory balanced). One of mine has 4 marks and the other has 1.
Make sure you run it on Low Timing!
Why do you need to run it on low timing, is it because of the pole count ot something else?
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Old Apr 27, 2012, 08:56 PM
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Why do you need to run it on low timing, is it because of the pole count ot something else?
yes the pole count determines timing and switching rate the more poles the higher they need to be
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Old Apr 27, 2012, 09:54 PM
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Alright boys....
Here it is. Be online store tonight.

http://www.tamjets.com/original/prod...aa84fe0d4ffab4

http://www.tamjets.com/original/prod...aa84fe0d4ffab4
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Old Apr 28, 2012, 12:01 AM
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Just wondering what everyone is using for spinners on this since the super-flexible factory one is rubbish?

Is it ok to fly without one?
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Old Apr 28, 2012, 01:45 AM
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yes its ok to run without the spinner, the spinner is only for aesthetics, thats said with tams washer you can safely run the stock spinner otherwise its very difficult to get the spinner centered to the rotor for a smooth run and even if you do it can move and cause an out of balance
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Old Apr 28, 2012, 09:49 AM
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Both links are for the 4mm shaft & spinner washe combo.

I think this is the link you meant to post for the 4mm shaft: http://www.tamjets.com/original/prod...aa84fe0d4ffab4
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Old Apr 28, 2012, 10:26 AM
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Well my motors finally showed! Got a pair in the 262 and man they sound sweet.
No ear splitting whine, just WHOOSH!!!

Now just gotta figure out the esc's in it. Both fire up perfect on 4S, but on 5S one refuses to arm? Programmed em both prior, at the same time, can only think one didn't take.


Max, as for Lockheed, do a little reading on the P-38 Lightning, and folks who try and use it for a model. Lockheed charges for the use of "their" product, just ask Horizon.
"LOCKHEED MARTIN, P-38/F-5E Lightning 400 ARF, associated emblems and logos, and body designs of vehicles are either registered trademarks or trademarks of Lockheed Martin Corporation in the USA and/or other jurisdictions, used under license by Horizon Hobby, Inc."
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Old Apr 28, 2012, 10:46 AM
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GG,

which motors did you just receive for the 262?

The L2855-2300Kv?
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