SMALL - espritmodel.com SMALL - Telemetry SMALL - Radio
Reply
Thread Tools
Old Dec 07, 2014, 02:53 PM
Registered User
Joined Jul 2011
91 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dogdude View Post
I got an original "Golden Eagle "EPP Eagle
Here:
http://www.freewebs.com/eppeagle/

I added ailerons to mine for a little more turn authority

Love flying it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8Q9ll0V5SA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpsnW0mHjP0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qy_g2l0z0mk

Oh and a little slope soaring
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pevSKsPgwc
While it's a personal choice to ad ailerons, IMHO it's really not worth the effort, additional expense and extra weight.
When set up properly with the correct amount of down and right thrust, flying on High Rates, with only the V tail control surfaces, you are still able to do tight circles, inside & outside loops, inverted flight and rolls.

Check out this video - Only V tail - (all stunt maneuvers are from the 1/2 way point of the video)
DW Hobby Eagle ワールドモデルス EPP イーグル (3 min 16 sec)
stryker2 is offline Find More Posts by stryker2
Reply With Quote
Sign up now
to remove ads between posts
Old Dec 07, 2014, 03:13 PM
Registered User
Joined Aug 2012
1,673 Posts
Thanks guys, here's the set up and results

On 4S:
=======
Propeller:
HK 9x5 Folding Prop and Spinner
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...idProduct=7844

ESC:
Unknown 40 amp

Battery:
4S Zippy Compact 25c (fully charged and balanced)

WOT Static:
250w 17 amps

On 3S:
=======
ZIPPY Flightmax 2800mAh 3S1P 30C (fully charged and balanced)
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s..._3S1P_30C.html

WOT Static:
145w 12.5 amps

Looking at the stats I think it's just a very inneficient airframe, climbs outs then gliding seems to be the way to go for flight duration, though the sink rate is pretty bad
Dogdude is online now Find More Posts by Dogdude
Reply With Quote
Old Dec 07, 2014, 03:23 PM
Registered User
Joined Aug 2012
1,673 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by stryker2 View Post
While it's a personal choice to ad ailerons, IMHO it's really not worth the effort, additional expense and extra weight.
When set up properly with the correct amount of down and right thrust, flying on High Rates, with only the V tail control surfaces, you are still able to do tight circles, inside & outside loops, inverted flight and rolls.

Check out this video - Only V tail - (all stunt maneuvers are from the 1/2 way point of the video)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpVX1_1wPt4
Not being funny or derogatory but those "stunt manouvres" were more like "flopping around in the air with little control
I know it's "possible" to fly the Eagle adequately with just V-Tail you definately get more control authority with ailerons, it's down to the individuals to decide whether it's worth the effort or not, after all this is not designed as or supposed to be an aerobatic plane, it's for floating around and freaking the birds out , maybe some secret video work too

For me the ailerons allow me to fly in slightly more wind, but it still prefers low wind, it get's beaten up too much in strong gusts
Dogdude is online now Find More Posts by Dogdude
Reply With Quote
Old Dec 07, 2014, 04:39 PM
Registered User
G-LO's Avatar
Va.Beach VA.
Joined Aug 2007
2,242 Posts
Same here, Dogdude. I myself installed ailerons on my Dancing Wings eagle. I've even programed a on and off ailerons to see the difference between both. -Using rudder for yaw and elevator for pitch.- ( However, I have also straighten the poly-hedral wing tips out and given it about 5 or 6 of dihedral. ) I noticed the handling is more crisp, where as the the tail only control is ..fine. It just depends on the person and their flying preferences.
G-LO is offline Find More Posts by G-LO
Reply With Quote
Old Dec 31, 2014, 12:04 PM
Registered User
Joined Jul 2011
91 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dogdude View Post
Not being funny or derogatory but those "stunt manouvres" were more like "flopping around in the air with little control
I know it's "possible" to fly the Eagle adequately with just V-Tail you definately get more control authority with ailerons, it's down to the individuals to decide whether it's worth the effort or not, after all this is not designed as or supposed to be an aerobatic plane, it's for floating around and freaking the birds out , maybe some secret video work too

For me the ailerons allow me to fly in slightly more wind, but it still prefers low wind, it get's beaten up too much in strong gusts
No offense taken .... I meant with only V tail one can still mimic a birds natural flight envelope quite effectively. It does not 'need' ailerons to fly well is all I'm saying!

The addition of ailerons will certainly open up the flight envelope allowing you do more unnatural bird flight characteristics and like you mentioned, probably allow you to fly in a little 'higher' wind with more control. That been said, from my personal experience these birds don't care for too much wind. (5mph or less is ideal!)

I would like to see this type of model come out with a completely different wing design. Perhaps a " Gull wing" design instead of a straight flat bottom .... something that could be done from any of the available kits with modification and some ingenuity. .... How well it would fly, is a whole other story!
stryker2 is offline Find More Posts by stryker2
Last edited by stryker2; Dec 31, 2014 at 12:27 PM.
Reply With Quote
Old Jan 16, 2015, 06:14 PM
Registered User
Joined Jul 2011
91 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bombay View Post
Don't buy a clone. Go for the original, in the original size, original quality, from the original designer - FlyParty

http://stores.ebay.com/EPP-EAGLE

http://www.graysonhobby.com/catalog/...roducts_id=704

You can buy it from his direct US distributor too. Maybe someone will have that link.

Edit: here it is http://www.freewebs.com/eppeagle/
While Flyparty might be the 'original' eagle, there is nothing wrong with a clone if it's a good one! and even better if it's at a more competitive price!

This is by no means a patented design (not that patents mean anything in China) so it's unrealistic to not to expect other manufacturers not to make and sell similar products.

It's safe to say, not all clones are good or bad, in fact some clones have improved on the original in some ways and some have failed miserably, and that refers to ALL RC related stuff.

With that said, Flyparty eagles have allegedly 'better' quality EPP foam than it's 'competitors' and also an inch or so bigger.
Dancing Wings EPP eagles on the other hand, have much better and more realistic looking painted graphics and decent more complete hardware package included at a more competitive price point from Hobbyking. ($78 including motor)

It's all a matter of personal preference and how much you're willing to drop on an EPP eagle. ... Or if you're 'ambitious' enough, you could also build one from scratch from the many online free plans .... at a fraction of the cost

They BOTH (Flyparty & Dancing Wings) fly GREAT! .... when set up properly.

Regardless of what you might pay, you will surely enjoy any one of them, guaranteed!

I personally have the Hobbyking (Dancing Wings) one and I'm VERY satisfied with it.
stryker2 is offline Find More Posts by stryker2
Last edited by stryker2; Jan 16, 2015 at 06:35 PM.
Reply With Quote
Old Feb 08, 2015, 11:05 PM
The red menace of the skies.
Joined Aug 2014
413 Posts
Hey guys, where can I get a fuselage or plans to build one? I crashed mine last fall and the wings and tail feathers are in good shape but the fuselage is toast.
Baron Von Red is online now Find More Posts by Baron Von Red
Reply With Quote
Old Feb 08, 2015, 11:28 PM
RC Keeps Me Sane
DanBo3D's Avatar
United States, NJ, Carlstadt
Joined Sep 2005
1,540 Posts
I've never seen parts available for any of these birds regardless of brand.
You'll probably have to buy a new kit and just use what you need and save the other stuff as spares.
When it comes to flat foam kits like these it's always a good idea to to trace a template and save it to cut out spare parts if and when you need them. So it's like saving and tracing your own set of plans.
DanBo3D is offline Find More Posts by DanBo3D
Reply With Quote
Old Feb 09, 2015, 06:13 AM
NaN
Andy2No's Avatar
Manchester, UK
Joined Nov 2005
3,849 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by Baron Von Red View Post
Hey guys, where can I get a fuselage or plans to build one? I crashed mine last fall and the wings and tail feathers are in good shape but the fuselage is toast.
You can get a pretty good idea of what to make from the first few pictures in the build manual : http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=794117

They're not taken from exactly the right angle, but you could possibly just scale up what you see there.
Andy2No is offline Find More Posts by Andy2No
Reply With Quote
Old Feb 09, 2015, 10:03 AM
Registered User
Joined Nov 2005
3,439 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by stryker2 View Post
While Flyparty might be the 'original' eagle, there is nothing wrong with a clone if it's a good one! and even better if it's at a more competitive price!

This is by no means a patented design (not that patents mean anything in China) so it's unrealistic to not to expect other manufacturers not to make and sell similar products.

It's safe to say, not all clones are good or bad, in fact some clones have improved on the original in some ways and some have failed miserably, and that refers to ALL RC related stuff.

With that said, Flyparty eagles have allegedly 'better' quality EPP foam than it's 'competitors' and also an inch or so bigger.
Dancing Wings EPP eagles on the other hand, have much better and more realistic looking painted graphics and decent more complete hardware package included at a more competitive price point from Hobbyking. ($78 including motor)

It's all a matter of personal preference and how much you're willing to drop on an EPP eagle. ... Or if you're 'ambitious' enough, you could also build one from scratch from the many online free plans .... at a fraction of the cost

They BOTH (Flyparty & Dancing Wings) fly GREAT! .... when set up properly.

Regardless of what you might pay, you will surely enjoy any one of them, guaranteed!

I personally have the Hobbyking (Dancing Wings) one and I'm VERY satisfied with it.
Great. Start your own thread. I don't know what you do for a living but how would you like someone to copy your work and sell it for less? And make it substandard. Building something from scratch is a non-sequitur.
IPFlyer is offline Find More Posts by IPFlyer
Reply With Quote
Old Feb 14, 2015, 09:45 AM
Registered User
Joined Apr 2012
221 Posts
Epp eagle

Lost the first one on the second flight. Think I had a linkage problem. Would like to get another one but can't get over the $39 shipping charge. Does anyone in the US sell these . Thanks BUCK
Buck Shot is offline Find More Posts by Buck Shot
Reply With Quote
Old Feb 14, 2015, 09:55 AM
mdv
Registered User
United States, CA, San Diego
Joined Jun 2009
564 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by Buck Shot View Post
Lost the first one on the second flight. Think I had a linkage problem. Would like to get another one but can't get over the $39 shipping charge. Does anyone in the US sell these . Thanks BUCK
There is one US vendor listed in this thread. Shipping is less but I think the total price ends up pretty close. You should get it sooner though if they have the one you want in stock.
mdv is online now Find More Posts by mdv
Reply With Quote
Old Feb 14, 2015, 10:29 PM
RC Keeps Me Sane
DanBo3D's Avatar
United States, NJ, Carlstadt
Joined Sep 2005
1,540 Posts
When it comes to a Flyparty Eagle the price in the US is about the same or more than direct from Flyparty.
The only way to spend less is to get the E-Aero, 99.9% the same kit and is the one I fly because the Flyparty was hard to get at one time so I bought a few E-Aero kits to have on hand.
http://www.gravesrc.com/e-aero-eagle-epp-kit.html

http://www.bphobbies.com/view.asp?id...4&pid=C2700124
DanBo3D is offline Find More Posts by DanBo3D
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools

Similar Threads
Category Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Discussion EPP Eagle fuzzyhead Foamies (Scratchbuilt) 2 Sep 28, 2008 10:54 AM