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Old Aug 29, 2004, 10:33 PM
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So, Will this qualify for warbird slope races?

The Focke Wulf TA-152... high altitude interceptor....

Same fast wing as the P-51D......


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Old Aug 30, 2004, 12:27 AM
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No - It Won't

I'm hoping that that will intimidate you and you won't enter that plane. That will make my chances better with my Ki-61,that I haven't finished yet.

If I can eliminate you from the competition, by fooling you in this fashion, I won't have to lose against you in a race. This is a new strategy I'm going to try for racing in the future.

hahaha

The plane looks awesome, Steve. Superb detail work.

Happy Flying and Good Luck In That Competition ;-)

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Old Aug 30, 2004, 12:30 AM
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I wish I could take credit, but the designer Norm Mertke built it. He has already DSed it at 100 MPH plus.

I'll build one soon, I have always liked the plane...

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Old Aug 30, 2004, 12:37 AM
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Steve:

I was thinking exactly the same thing. It had occured to me that the TA-152 would be a very good match for the wings from the streched P-51. It's way more scale and should be fast. Nice work Norm.
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Old Aug 30, 2004, 12:43 AM
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I think it would look better with a bit more dihedral. This is an artist's rendering but I think it captures the Ta-152 pretty well:



And a photo of a real one, not the same angle as above but gives an idea of what I'm talking about:



The real one had a LOT of dihedral...probably wouldn't hurt the slope version at all, who knows it might make it better for racing.

Other than that, similar to Mr. Courtice I think this works approach works better for the Ta-152 (and IMO U-2) than for the P-51.

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Old Aug 30, 2004, 10:09 AM
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It definatly looks way more scale than the mustang.

When the kits come around are you guys going to offer tork rods for the ailerons?

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Old Aug 30, 2004, 11:53 AM
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Tawg, they will be two wing servos. They should be ready to ship in a couple of days.

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Old Aug 30, 2004, 06:39 PM
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How about one of these for powered slope scale?



More here.. http://www.nurflugel.com/Nurflugel/H...dy_ho_iii.html

ian
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Old Aug 30, 2004, 07:05 PM
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Gotta' love them Hortens. I have some plans for the IX (top one), but haven't built one yet. I'm still debating whether I want to go to all the trouble to build a plane with no verticals, which will most assuredly have some stability problems. I thought about just putting a totally non-scale fin on it just to make it fly descently, but that would kind of wreck the look and novelty of the plane.

Another thing I thought about doing is putting some small clam shells on the wing tips and installing a gyro on the rudder channel. The idea is to have them open and close automatically to drag the respective wingtip back to keep the plane from yawing. But this might be tricky to get working and might instead cause the plane to get into an unrecoverable cycle of oscillations.

So, I'm still sitting on the idea of building a Horten. Maybe someday though.

BTW, the Ta looks good, Steve. I agree with Steve L. though. It would look better with some dihedral and a little more detail. But it looks a lot better than the Mustang did with that wing.

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Old Aug 30, 2004, 07:08 PM
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The TA-152 looks great!!!

It shouldn't be too hard to build torque rods into the wing...
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Old Aug 30, 2004, 08:42 PM
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Quote:
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I'm still debating whether I want to go to all the trouble to build a plane with no verticals, which will most assuredly have some stability problems.
I built a Mugi this summer that has no verticals and no real airfoil. It's a little bit of a handful but honestly that makes it more fun to fly. In my experience, so long as you fly the finless flying wings fast enough, they are pretty stable and fly great (my finless Mugi is 100% better than my old singlefin version). Anyways, the point is it can be done and done well--and if anyone can make a sweet H IX for the slope, it's YOU Mr. Seafury!!

YOU....CAN.....(wait for it).....DOOOO EEEEEEET!!!

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Old Aug 30, 2004, 08:55 PM
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i flew my weasel with no fin on it.... lol... like driving on ice but it was a blast! lol

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