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Old Aug 12, 2012, 11:31 PM
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Saito Starting Instructions

I don't know why the other thread closed but here are the starting instrutions for most saito steam engines.

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Mount the engine and boiler firmly to a peice of plywood, mount the burner with about 1/8-1/4" spaceing from the boiler.

Saito Live Steam Starting Instructions

1. Fill the boiler approximately full with distilled or filtered rain water.
2. The plug at the front top of the boiler can be used as an overflow indicator, fill boiler until it runs out.
3. Drain the water from the displacement lubricator and refill with genuine steam oil.
4. Ensure the burner valve is closed.
5. Fill the fuel tank with Methyl or denatured alcohol.
6. Lubricate the engine with 30w or similar oil.
7. Ensure the throttle valve is closed.
8. Fill the metal bottle cap with fuel and place under the burner, this is used to preheat the burner and warm the fuel tank to provide pressure for the fuel.
9. Just before the bottle cap runs out of fuel , open the burner valve and the burner should light, it will be a little rough for a few minutes until the burner gets fully heated.
10. Adjust the fuel valve to get a good flame, if you can’t see the flame then adjust so it can be heard but not a loud roar.
11. Keep an eye on the steam plant and a head of steam should be raised in 4-10 minutes depending on the boiler and burner.
12. I would wait until 10-20 PSI is indicated on the pressure gauge if equipped. If no pressure gauge is present you might start to hear or see steam escaping from around the engine.
13. Crack open the throttle valve, most two cylinder double acting engines will self start; condensate will come out of the engine exhaust.
14. With some engines it is better to set the engine in forward then reverse to clear the condensate.
15. Do not try to strongly force the engine to turn if it is locked up with condensate, given slight pressure it will clear the condensate and eventually start. Unless the engine is faulty if it is getting steam pressure it will run.
16. Run the engine conservatively at first checking to make sure you do not run the boiler dry before the fuel is exhausted.
17. Keep the RPM low since most model steam engines are intended to run at 1000 RPM or less. This will require running a coarser pitched or larger diameter propeller than an electric motor.
18. There are other details if things are not working ask a question to the group and it will probably be answered.
19. Have fun Steaming


For the B2G boiler start the boiler with two burners then run with only one burner to extend your running time.

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Old Aug 13, 2012, 12:50 AM
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Thank You Steve.
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Old Aug 20, 2012, 11:10 PM
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Some instructions from Saito T2DR and T3DR.

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Some old Saito advertisements.

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Thanks for posting them.
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Hi Steve,
What is the publication date of the Adds?
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Old Aug 21, 2012, 01:05 PM
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Probably mid to late 70s

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Old Aug 21, 2012, 01:08 PM
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Exploded view drawings for the T2DR and the T3DR.

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Old Aug 21, 2012, 01:12 PM
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Thanks for posting this Steve.....exactly what I was looking for!!
There must be an exploded view that goes with the parts list.....correct?
Only one thing stopping me from starting my T3DR for the first time.....there is a short piece of pipe at the top of the control valve which seems to be open all the time. I think it is for a pressure gauge or something. Do I need to plug this off to run the engine? Does it exit pressure all the time?

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Old Aug 21, 2012, 01:17 PM
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That port is for a whistle, it is only on when the throttle is fully on. Close the throttle and it will then build pressure in the boiler. Just do not open the throttle all the way and it will not port the steam out of this location. You could try try to cap it also.

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Old Aug 21, 2012, 01:19 PM
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Drawings in JPEG format and smaller file size.

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Old Aug 21, 2012, 01:34 PM
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Perfect!!
I was given some steam oil by some train enthusiasts.....It is very thick, almost black and very sticky (stringy). I am told there is a couple of viscosities in steam oils (another a little thinner). Does it sound like I have the right stuff for the Saito? I cant believe this stuff actually emulsifies with the steam in that little oil reservoir. I'm afraid to damage the engine with the wrong oil.

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Old Aug 21, 2012, 01:42 PM
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I have seen it black but usually a dark brown color, does it have a name brand on it?
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Not black....but VERY dark brown.....It pulls strings of oil when you dip your finger in it. The scale train guys are using it in their larger steam engines. No label.....they buy it in large quantities for the club.
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That is the good stuff. Go do some steaming.

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