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Old Mar 07, 2014, 07:34 AM
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One thing I forgot to ask.

Is there anything other than the sporty.exe needed to upgrade?
Do I need a program to unpack the .rar files?
There's no mention of it, but someone told me I need it.

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Old Mar 07, 2014, 12:17 PM
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Sorry for the confusion.
I'll try again.

The fourth picture you posted that shows the TsUSB-3 and your adapter
OK, this one. Which has a white plug at the USB adapter:


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does not have the little white end on it like the cables in picture number one in post
48.
This is the first picture in post 48. Which doesn't seem like what you're talking about.



This one, from post 48, seems to make more sense, as being what you're referring to?



But it *does* show a white plug at the USB adapter.

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Hope that makes more sense.
Bob
Not really (but likely my fault, not yours) I feel like I'm missing something very basic.

If you connect it up like I showed in the first picture of this post (showing the 2 commercial cables, and my homemade adapter), wiring the adapter as I showed in the separate zoomed-in pictures, you should be able to plug into, and upgrade, the internal XJT module of your Taranis.

But I fear that's not addressing your actual question.

As to uncompressing the software, I don't recall what I had to do there. I'd have to look again at the versions you download. Is there other software required? Yes. You need to install the drivers first, etc, as I laid out in post 48.
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The cables in the attached picture from the second image on page 4, post #48, and the cable in this link -->
http://www.alofthobbies.com/usb-upgraded-cable.html

Sorry for the confusion, and I hope that makes sense.

If it does make sense, I guess I need to cut the white ends off and solder
the wires together??

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just a fast question:

If I update the module on my Taranis, will I need to rebind all my receivers?
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Bob, my apologies, I'm just not clear on what the issue is, or what you're asking, I guess. I'm sorry.

If you're just updating the internal XJT module, you don't need the white-white cable.

If you have what is shown in the Aloft pictures, you should have what you need. You can either re-arrange the pins, as shown in the FrSky/Aloft instructions. Or you can make an adapter cable, as I showed.

No cutting/soldering is needed.
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just a fast question:

If I update the module on my Taranis, will I need to rebind all my receivers?
No. Bind status is not affected.
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No. Bind status is not affected.
Good to know. Thanks!
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Old Mar 09, 2014, 04:30 AM
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RedOctobyr, thank you for your patience.
You are kind, and a nice person.
Some would just say to go figure it out myself!
There are hundreds of threads and videos out there.
Some of the threads have thousands of posts.
Thanks for speeding up the process for me.

Anyway, attached is what I was TRYING to describe.
I didn't realize that the USB device unplugged from the cable with the white
end. Duhh

The Taranis is my first FrSky product, so I'm taking the long journey down the steep learning curve route.

Trying to sort out the language and terms has been tedious.
There are the .rar, .frk, .dfu files.
Using the Zadig utility, STM32 BOOTLOADER.
Then there's the XJT and X9D
Not to mention the fact that since this is done by a group of Linux computer geeks, there are files and procedures everywhere, some outdated.
Just trying to figure out which ones are still valid is a chore.

In this thread for instance, in post 3 Scott links to a file -> XJT_130724.rar
In the very next post, number 4 there's a link to this file -> XJT_131105.rar

In your procedure on page 4, post 48 you say this -->
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Plug the cable into the Taranis, with the Taranis powered off. Open the software, select the same COM port, click File to select the XJT firmware
So, I'm going to ask another crazy question.
There is firmware for the XJT module, and there is firmware for the X9D.
Do I use the the XJT firmware for my Taranis transmitter as you say, or the X9D in this link
http://www.frsky-rc.com/download/vie...-Taranis%20X9D

So once again, thank you, and thank everyone for putting in the effort
to help those of use who feel lost lost at times.



Take care
Bob
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Yeah, it's a lot of work. The radio has firmware, and so does its internal "module". So, you need to update each if that's your question.
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Anyway, attached is what I was TRYING to describe.
I didn't realize that the USB device unplugged from the cable with the white
end. Duhh
Heh, sometimes we're so worried about the hard stuff that it's the easy thing that gets us

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So, I'm going to ask another crazy question.
There is firmware for the XJT module, and there is firmware for the X9D.
Do I use the the XJT firmware for my Taranis transmitter as you say, or the X9D in this link
http://www.frsky-rc.com/download/vie...-Taranis%20X9D
There are 2 firmwares used within your radio.

The X9D (Taranis) firmware is one. That one contains the operating system (OpenTX) for the radio, which runs the interface you see, etc. If you upgrade your OpenTX version, that's done by updating the X9D firmware.

This is related to the FrSky link you provided.

But do note that, if you have upgraded to OpenTX, and are using Companion9X, you'd get new OpenTX versions from within OpenTX. And you would install them from within Companion9X.

The Taranis comes with, err, FrskyTX? I forget what FrSky calls their customized branch of OpenTX. After getting my Taranis, I installed OpenTX (similar to what it comes with, but different), and would no longer get my X9D firmware from FrSky's site. I'd do it from within the Companion9X software. And this firmware is updated using a standard USB cable, to the exposed plug on the back of the TX.

Anyways (sorry, turned into a long explanation), the X9D firmware is what "runs" the radio itself, and what you see and interact with. Updates to this can introduce new features, etc.

There's also the firmware for the internal XJT radio-transmitting module. This is the internal XJT firmware. This one tends to be behind-the-scenes, you never see it, and updates to it should be uncommon, and would largely be for bug-fixes, etc.

And this firmware is updating using the special software FrSky provided, and using the special cables we have been discussing, plugged into the pins under the cover for the module area.

So there are 2 different firmwares you can update. For different purposes, using different methods.
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Old Mar 10, 2014, 04:52 AM
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Whew...

I'm trying to update the Taranis OpenTx firmware using companion and the USB cable.
I ran Zadig and see the STM32 BOOTLOADER.

I got the .zip from the FrSky link above.
In it are;
Quote:
software-stsw-stm32080.zip
AND
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v1.1.02-131018 which yields the file -> opentx-x9d-v1.1.2-mode2.dfu
I thought I knew what to do from here, but I don't?

When I open up the red flaming transmitter icon in Companion (Write Flash Memory) it seems like it's looking for a.bin file.

Thanks for any help
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But do note that, if you have upgraded to OpenTX, and are using Companion9X, you'd get new OpenTX versions from within OpenTX. And you would install them from within Companion9X.
If you have installed the OpenTX firmware, and are using Companion9X, you download new OpenTX firmware from within Companion9X. You don't use a file from FrSky. That would be for their special branch of OpenTX.

It's done under File, Preferences. I'm sure there's info out there about how to do it. I've only done it once. I think you use the "Check for updates" button.
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You are the MAN!

I knew of that option in Preferences but obviously didn't know what it was for.

By the way, I did search for a long time to find a solution to this question, but
could not find an answer anywhere.

Just want you to know you're not being USED

I feel pretty good this morning.
I've successfully flashed an X8R and it worked.
Now I've flashed OpenTx through Companion.

Next is to make that special cable and do the internal transmittter XJT.

For the past three weeks I've been gathering information, files, cables,
links, videos, etc. so I have everything I need down the road.
I want to get all of the processes and procedures down while the radio is on
the bench and before I start flying it.
That way I'll have what I need, when I need it.
It's probably a hold over from working as a uav contractor for the government, but I've written procedure documents on all of the update processes so far.
The real reason is that my memory is BAD

Thanks again
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Something Just Occurred to Me!

Since I flashed the transmitter through Companion, the version I now have is not the version listed currently on the FrSky site in the link we had a few posts up -->
http://www.frsky-rc.com/download/vie...-Taranis%20X9D

Originally my two radios came with the version in the link, opentx-x9d-v1.1.02 dated 10/18/13

Now the version is --> opentx-r2940 dated 02/02/14

Am I missing something about the current posted link on the FrSky site?

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It sounds like it did exactly what you asked, and updated your OpenTX firmware?

As mentioned previously, there are two variants of the OpenTX firmware/software that Taranis runs. I'm not the most qualified person to explain this, but I'll give you my understanding.

"Normal" OpenTX is the main version. This is developed continuously by an awesome group of talented volunteers. They work to further improve it, add features, fix bugs etc. It's open-source software; if you want to download it and tweak the code to make a version with some special feature you want, you can do that.

This is the version that Companion9X will download. The main "trunk" of OpenTX.

FrSky, some time back, took OpenTX and forked it off into their own "special" version. This is updated less frequently, and just has FrSky people working on it, I presume. Your Taranis comes with this branch. I don't know what benefits there might be to using this version.

I've fallen way behind on the main Taranis threads, but at least a month or so ago, the recommendation was still to use the main OpenTX, which you download from within Companion9X. I don't expect that recommendation to change.

So you have what most people would suggest, I think. The latest official release of OpenTX, downloaded using Companion9X.

Not the special FrSky fork, downloaded directly from their website, which is using older code (dated from October, not February), etc.
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