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Old Dec 30, 2010, 07:51 PM
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Tom / Yabba,

Nevermind on my Timeset problem. I modified the sample that was provided and simply saved it and W7 added (1) suffix. It will never work that way. Geeze, I feel like maroon.

Bottom line is I now have the time and date revised.

Bill
Haha, glad you got it figured out but for those still trying to get it here is the post.

It was jhl that posted it on the keyfob thread. Thanks jan

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...postcount=6820

Yabba

PS, probably use a 24 hour format since the sample file doesn't show AM or PM.
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Old Dec 30, 2010, 08:08 PM
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Well I'm confused, Tom. If you're referring to Yabba's video posted in #9 of this thread, I see a good bit of vignetting in it. I guess I missed the other video with the white and yellow stripes, but this current AV is definitely darker around the edges than in the center, at least to my eye.

I wonder if there's an anti-vignetting filter, or a vignetting filter that could be configured as such, in vdub.
I certainly wasn't suggesting there is no vignetting. But in this AV clip it seems to be less, and with less white balance struggle than in this earlier post with the field lines.

The issue to me is not just vignetting (light intensity drop off), but also the color adjustment that comes with it. This looks to make the vignetting a LOT more obvious, especially in the upper corners with a clear blue sky in the scene. And it comes and goes as the scenes change with some ground in the bottom portion. It's just something we have to live with for now. Since it constantly changes with the scenes, I don't know of any filter adjustment during editing that can fix this.

Some sample videos show very little of this, so it's yet to be determined if this is more prevalent in some of these cameras than others.
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Old Dec 30, 2010, 08:20 PM
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Here is a short HD keycam video I just loaded to YOUTUBE. It's in HD format for Youtube. This is a worse case of video making -- dark, halogen lamps even lens flares. Enjoy. Good audio capture.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bV9U...ist=QL&index=1
Considering the lighting, I'd say that is pretty good! Not much "noise" in the low light areas!
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Old Dec 30, 2010, 08:26 PM
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Does anyone know if the web cam drivers work with win7 x64?
How about other needed files for deleting date and other settings?
Always try post #3 in this thread first if you have a question. Chances are it has already been asked and answered.
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Old Dec 30, 2010, 08:30 PM
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My microcard is formatted as a FAT32. Should I re format it NTFS or leave it?
Leave it! Better yet, format it with the SD_formatter program and it won't confuse the issue with that option
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Old Dec 30, 2010, 08:31 PM
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Hotspot filter for Vdub

This might work?

http://neuron2.net/hotspot/hotspot.html

Looks similar to what I was trying in Ulead
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Old Dec 30, 2010, 08:36 PM
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FAQs - Post #2 in this thread may have the answer.

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Haha, glad you got it figured out but for those still trying to get it here is the post.

It was jhl that posted it on the keyfob thread. Thanks jan

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...postcount=6820

Yabba

PS, probably use a 24 hour format since the sample file doesn't show AM or PM.
It's also linked in Post #3 of this thread, which I have reserved for FAQs like this. My plan is to keep adding links to answers for questions we see over and over because people jump into a thread and don't know the question has been asked and answered dozens of times, making the thread longer and more tedious than it needs to be.

I'll add the 24 hour format comment... I missed that.
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Old Dec 30, 2010, 08:44 PM
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I do not know the purchase date of clx1's camera... maybe he will chime in here. But I do know that his vendor, internet-shop365 (aka eletoponline365) is sending him a new camera since he bricked his using the firmware flashing info that the vendor released without any warnings.
Hello all,

I bought my now-bricked camera on Dec 12 and it was promptly shipped. It arrived on Dec 20 and as far as I can see today, it's already left US soil on its way home to be de-bricked....

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Old Dec 30, 2010, 08:46 PM
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Haha, glad you got it figured out but for those still trying to get it here is the post.

It was jhl that posted it on the keyfob thread. Thanks jan

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...postcount=6820

Yabba

PS, probably use a 24 hour format since the sample file doesn't show AM or PM.
Yabba,

Sometimes you are just blind to the obvious and I just proved it. I used the 24 hour clock. It's fine. At least it's not stamped 1-18-2009.

Bill
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Old Dec 30, 2010, 08:49 PM
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Considering the lighting, I'd say that is pretty good! Not much "noise" in the low light areas!
Tom,

I am very pleased with this camera. Surprisingly and I can safely say amazingly good for the money. The night shot with halogen and sodium vapor lighting is a torture test.

Bill
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Old Dec 30, 2010, 08:53 PM
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Hotspot filter for Vdub

This might work?

http://neuron2.net/hotspot/hotspot.html

Looks similar to what I was trying in Ulead
That's interesting... hadn't looked at that one before. It will be interesting to see if it can improve this camera's video. It's a bit tedious to set up initially with needing to create a filter specific to each camera for best results, but might be worth the effort.

As an aside, Vdub cannot directly import the .MOV videos, and the add-on module for Quitcktime files did not work on W7 (64) bit machine, or maybe I gave up too early trying to get it to work! I've pretty much come to the conclusion to go to AVI_Demux as a capable replacement for Vdub with the .MOV files. It can import the camera file directly and seems to have all the key functionality most people used Vdub for, including a wide array of filters (maybe not this "hot spot filter, though some work with both programs, I think).

FWIW, if you missed it, I reserved an initial post #4 as a repository for editing issues with this camera's videos.
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Old Dec 30, 2010, 08:58 PM
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As an aside, Vdub cannot directly import the .MOV videos, and the add-on module for Quitcktime files did not work on W7 (64) bit machine, or maybe I gave up too early trying to get it to work! I've pretty much come to the conclusion to go to AVI_Demux as a capable replacement for Vdub with the .MOV files. It can import the camera file directly and seems to have all the key functionality most people used Vdub for, including a wide array of filters (maybe not this "hot spot filter, though some work with both programs, I think).
Tom,

A little OT but...what would be the best settings in AVI_Demux to re-mux a .MOV to preserve the original clip quality and approximate file size? There are so many options outside of "copy" on AVI_Demux on Save that I thought I would ask the Sensei as opposed to trying 'em all one night....

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Old Dec 30, 2010, 09:16 PM
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That's interesting... hadn't looked at that one before. It will be interesting to see if it can improve this camera's video. It's a bit tedious to set up initially with needing to create a filter specific to each camera for best results, but might be worth the effort.

As an aside, Vdub cannot directly import the .MOV videos, and the add-on module for Quitcktime files did not work on W7 (64) bit machine, or maybe I gave up too early trying to get it to work! I've pretty much come to the conclusion to go to AVI_Demux as a capable replacement for Vdub with the .MOV files. It can import the camera file directly and seems to have all the key functionality most people used Vdub for, including a wide array of filters (maybe not this "hot spot filter, though some work with both programs, I think).

FWIW, if you missed it, I reserved an initial post #4 as a repository for editing issues with this camera's videos.
I am trying out Video Pad editor. It allows Virtual Dub Plugins as well. Cool program and it's very reasonably priced. I am running Windows 7 Home premium 64 bit.

Bill
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Old Dec 30, 2010, 09:31 PM
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Tom,

A little OT but...what would be the best settings in AVI_Demux to re-mux a .MOV to preserve the original clip quality and approximate file size? There are so many options outside of "copy" on AVI_Demux on Save that I thought I would ask the Sensei as opposed to trying 'em all one night....

clx1
This is very on topic for what I eventually want to cover in Post #3. I just need more time to compile the goods!

Are you wanting to repackage into .AVI format, or just clip out portions, or what? If the latter, just clip first then do direct copy to retain original file structure (duh!). For adding ANY filter action, you MUST re-encode. A direct copy into an .AVI file container does not bring over the video portion properly, so to put in .AVI format so Vdub can import it, it must be re-encoded. Use MPEG-4 AVC video codec (a.k.a. H.264). Normal .AVI output can then re-mux the stream properly. The native bit rate of this HD camera is about 7000 kbps, which is quite high for such a camera. But you'd want the final output to be similar to keep the same quality. I've done some trials, but haven't come to any conclusion on which is the best settings to get this. I find the "average bit rate - two pass" method, set for 7000 kbps the easiest way to get there, and probably as good of results as a single pass encoding method. It takes a bit longer with two passes, but the first pass is pretty quick. You can also put it into a different final container, like MP4, this way as well, and it's better suited for this codec and can still be played in the WMP and WMC, and WLMM on my W7 PC.

Does this answer your question?
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Old Dec 30, 2010, 11:34 PM
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Also the driver CD isnt included with cam so you will need to ask for it...
The instructions say you don't need a driver for webcam function. What OS is your computer? W7 PC users have said no driver needed like the instructions, but XP could be a different story. Or MAC, even more different!
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