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Old Jul 19, 2007, 12:42 AM
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Let's see a GWS 29 from Mr. Lin

Just sign in if you would like GWS to make a FULCRUM.
Let see what the result will be.

I would prefer the same size as GWS-15 with 64mm size fans or even more scale 55mm fans.

Be first to make it Mr.Lin

You can tell I'm an Fulcrum fan.

darmar - proud owner of 12 GWS planes.
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Old Jul 19, 2007, 01:25 AM
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I agree. I have a own build of a MIG 29 but it have two EDF50 from GWS

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Old Jul 19, 2007, 10:57 AM
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Darmar,
I would have to agree! make a Mig29.

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Old Jul 19, 2007, 11:17 AM
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My guess is we need 333 more inputs to be noticable for GWS.
Remember, their goal is profits based on quantity.
Not high pricing like some flimsy depron model producers, won't mention them now...
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Old Jul 20, 2007, 01:46 AM
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My guess is we need 333 more inputs to be noticable for GWS.
Remember, their goal is profits based on quantity.
Not high pricing like some flimsy depron model producers, won't mention them now...
I think there are many more other out there who would buy a Mig 29 and Mr. Lin know that He is a good b.man and I am sure he wouldn't oversee that fact, because no cheap foamy of a Mig29 is on the market till now an the Mig 29 is a "must have" for many modellers Maybe we have to wait for some time because GWS have not enough resources to make every modelers wish come true imm.

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Old Jul 20, 2007, 04:05 AM
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Hell yeah! this is a design thats undermodelled, and ideal for edf. It has good intake and outlet area, good wing area and good space for battery storage. Edf-64's would be ideal, because then when if my me262 dies, I can use the same gear in a MiG. Colours are plentiful with over 30 user countries too. Please Mr.Lin make us a MiG!

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Old Jul 20, 2007, 08:31 AM
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I'd buy one! .. and a GWS-22..
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Old Jul 20, 2007, 12:25 PM
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Make it a Mig-25 and I'm in.... the 29 is too curvy <is that even a word?> for me.
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Old Jul 20, 2007, 05:23 PM
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Heck, any Mig, or Sukoi for that matter, will turn my fancy. Mig-15, 17, 19, 21, 23, 25, 27, 29, or Su-17, 22, 24, 27, 37, 47. A Frogfoot would be the bee's knees.

You make it, I'll buy it!

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Old Jul 20, 2007, 08:48 PM
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What about the size?

According to the past monthes experience, those models for twin BL motors cost to much for most flyers!

I will think to make twin smaller!

EDF50 or EDF40 will be better for twins! Smaller ESC, smaller Li-Po pack,.... Total cost less!

Or you still prefer a size like 262 and F15?

We alrady planning to make many single EDF75 like A4, J10, ....

Cheap, but still feel powerful.
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Old Jul 20, 2007, 09:35 PM
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Read my Avatar, bigger is better!
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Old Jul 20, 2007, 10:23 PM
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The bigger size would be better. A little version would be cool, but the bigger version wouldn't be that much more, and could handle a bit of a breeze. The EDF-64 size would be better for GWS to because they make a brushless alternative to the 64, but not for the 50 or 40. Having it the same size will also complement the existed A-4 and GWS-15.
Go the MiG!

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Old Jul 21, 2007, 01:34 AM
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I disagree. I think GWS models are starting to get to big (just a little) They used to be great because you could take them to the local soccer field and fly them. Now they are getting bigger (and hence faster). The F-15 needs a large space to fly in - no way you should fly it in a soccer field, and it's BIG - it takes up a lot of room if built in one piece.

I think that edf 55 sized one would be OK. I really like the 55's but they only ever came out with one model for it. I think a twin 55 is the way to go.
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Old Jul 21, 2007, 02:13 AM
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Bigger is better for flying, bigger is better for getting decent size motors and decent airflow. But bigger is (much) more expensive. Read Mr Lin's words:

According to the past monthes experience, those models for twin BL motors cost to much for most flyers!

I don't think he means what he reads here, I think he's talking about his sales figures reflecting in a significantly lesser demand than he might normally expect for a new model. (If I'm right I get no satisfaction from being able to say "told you so" - months ago) .

Look at the market guys - there's a bunch of edf jets coming out but they're mostly dinks in the size stakes, using 40 or 50mm fans.

I'm not saying that GWS shouldn't do big ones, I'm not saying there isn't a demand. What I AM saying is that once your flight pack - battery, esc and propulsion unit - starts to cost four, five or six times what the model cost you've moved into a different market and GWS need to take account of that in their Capex and new model planning.

This is a real guess but I'd take a bet that P-38 about met sales expectations, 262 low side, 190 on track, AT-6 slightly low, F-15 will fall short fairly big time and P-40 will exceed expectations.

Can you tell the difference between these two people? Joe expects to spend $200-300 on the kit to go into a plane. He's delighted to find a quality plane which only costs $50 to carry his kit. Jerry wants to spend no more than $30-50 on his plane and would like to get it into the air for not much more than the same again. GWS has traditionally has sold to the Jerrys of this world. There are many more Jerrys than Joes. For big EDF kit you need Joes. That's the way I see it?
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Old Jul 21, 2007, 09:06 AM
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I see the GWS 15 under $100 with motors included at tower h. site (coming soon)
What else to ask for, price is great. EDF's are more expensive by at least 30% than prop models. COOL factor is always expensive.

Mig-29 can be offered for same price.

Mr.Lin, regarding the size, 55mm fans is minimum for flyable jet.

Or reduced size micro jet for edf-40s with Feigaos or Medusa motors would do the job. Note also cost won't get much down unless you sell micro sized jet for $45 or less!!

I built 36"ws SU-25 with 17oz AUW few years back and flew it all day long on stock edf-40 units on 2s 1500 tanic packs. It was much faster than GWS a-10 I had at the time.

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