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Old Oct 21, 2012, 09:43 PM
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The original Vapor Bricks were 3.3g

Then New AR6400 based PKZ 3351 bricks have porked up 3.65g

It would be cool if this was a new, smaller brick that got back to 3.3g

Brushless mode would be cool, too.
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Old Oct 21, 2012, 10:18 PM
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Came back to look at the new comments, then looked at the picture again. Missing elevator linkage and horn, and the mylar/film/membrane seem to be glued with a glue gun, not C.A. Not even Parkzone prototype standard in my book. Add lousy color scheme and this should have been posted in April magazine because it does look fishy!
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Old Oct 21, 2012, 10:34 PM
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Came back to look at the new comments, then looked at the picture again. Missing elevator linkage and horn, and the mylar/film/membrane seem to be glued with a glue gun, not C.A. Not even Parkzone prototype standard in my book. Add lousy color scheme and this should have been posted in April magazine because it does look fishy!
The comparison picture has both elevator and Rudder rods.

The "flying" shot is a typical fake marketing photo overlay. They could have easily photoshopped out the elevator rod by mistake.
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Old Oct 21, 2012, 11:01 PM
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The "flying" shot is a typical fake marketing photo overlay. They could have easily photoshopped out the elevator rod by mistake.
And the horn? The rod is easy to remove by mistake, but to remove the horn, it cannot be an accident...

Anyway, we will see soon enough. Would like it to be sooner than later though, because winter is slowly kicking in here!
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Old Oct 21, 2012, 11:11 PM
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I noticed the missing rudder control rod too.

Personally I doubt it's possible to drop the weight from 15g to 9.5g mostly with a lighter motor and battery. I'm not sure the rest of the weight reduction can come from the airframe. But, you never it might be possible. However, I suspect it's a combination of lighter motor/gearbox/prop/battery + lighter airframe + brick lighter than 3.3g in the original Vapor. How much lighter? Only a bit. One way would be to go to servo motors smaller than 4mm diameter.

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Old Oct 21, 2012, 11:12 PM
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could this be the ultra light, slow tight indoor flyer we've always wanted?

I know there is the carbon butterfly, but something that is spectrum would be fun as well
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Old Oct 21, 2012, 11:13 PM
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I'm confident the 8.6gweight is without battery.

3.3g for brick +3g for motor/gearbox/prop would leave no room for an airframe with wheels if a 2.5g battery was included.
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Old Oct 21, 2012, 11:17 PM
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Any thoughts on what the pricing will be?
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Old Oct 22, 2012, 06:26 AM
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I think it's real thing that got killed for whatever reason, perhaps it was found it would eat into the Night Vapor market, thus competing with itself for no real benefit.

Agree with UNGN's assessment, the 8.6 g weight is feasible w/o battery, the prop looks like a Citabria prop and that alone is .82 grams lighter than the Vapor prop. Short can motor and there's another gram saved. Smaller frame and it adds up to ~9 grams.

Looking closer at the photo it's obvious there's two servos on the board, the elevator pushrod just happens to be in front of the main carbon frame and thus invisible.
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Old Oct 22, 2012, 07:37 AM
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Any thoughts on what the pricing will be?
Based on PKZ's traditional pricing structure, likely $99.95 to start, but I'm sure they'll be cheaper @ discount sellers.
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Old Oct 22, 2012, 02:41 PM
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Any thoughts on what the pricing will be?
How can you put a price on a Product that does not exist

OK!!! Try googling PKZU1280 and PKZU1280 (NOTHING!)

OK . Next challenge

Who has a copy of the Jan 2012 Issue of (Electric Flight) magazine?

Now if you have a copy of the Jan 2012 Issue of (Electric Flight) magazine can you scan in the the page of the mini vapor PLEASE !!!
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Old Oct 22, 2012, 02:45 PM
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Now if you have a copy of the Jan 2012 Issue of (Electric Flight) magazine can you scan in the the page of the mini vapor PLEASE !!!
That was done in msg 4, previous page. Unless you're asking for somebody else to do it, to make sure Flyboy is not pulling our legs?
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Old Oct 22, 2012, 03:31 PM
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I am not pulling anyones leg...It is in the magazine.
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Old Oct 22, 2012, 03:45 PM
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That was done in msg 4, previous page. Unless you're asking for somebody else to do it, to make sure Flyboy is not pulling our legs?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...G-TL0WnjE&NR=1



Thanks RealGambler so its a (HOAX) i thought it was

Just like the guys who posted a magnetic accelerator on you-tube And said it was a (Perpetual Motion machine)

Its got a cam on the side to make it work Ha! Ha!

I hate the internet

The more i watch this you-tube video , the more i (BELIEVE)

Is it me or does this (Perpetual Motion machine) look real

Fake or real , check this vid out

It will blow your mind . Ha ! Ha !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...G-TL0WnjE&NR=1
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Old Oct 22, 2012, 05:39 PM
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Personally I doubt it's possible to drop the weight from 15g to 9.5g mostly with a lighter motor and battery. I'm not sure the rest of the weight reduction can come from the airframe. Gordon
I find the weight hard to believe also, but the original Vapor was advertised at 12 grams if I remember correctly.
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