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Old Jul 19, 2014, 09:18 PM
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Twin engine planes???

Hey all,
I am a noob of almost 3 months now. I have had great success flying my Champ, Night Vapor and Duet. I also have a large FMS Easy Trainer 1280, that I have only flown once, but I am leery about wrecking it, as I have virtually no experience flying with ailerons.

Everywhere I read, they say if you want to learn ailerons you should try the Parkzone UM T-28. I bought it a couple days back, and at this point, have wrecked it so badly, it's almost ready for the scrap heap. I do NOT feel that it is the next step up from the Champ because I don't think learning ailerons is a good thing on a fast little plane with tiny wings.

So, I have two questions:
First, what's a good, SLOW-moving, durable plane to learn ailerons on that can take a serious beating (like the Champ)? My suggestion to Parkzone would be to make a version of the Champ available with ailerons, but I know that's not going to happen anytime soon. I know I'm going to crash alot learning aileron control, but I have found out the T-28 doesn't take kindly to being crashed repeatedly. It's not durable…not like the Champ.

Secondly, I love the way the Duet handles. What I really want is the Firebird Stratos, but it's not available anymore. Talking to Hobbyzone they claim that the technology has advanced away from the Firebird. Well, so what? It was a great plane. I would think alot of folks out there would still love to have a large, fast flying, rudder/elevator control only, double-engine plane that comes RTF for ONLY $130.00……where else can you get that kind of a deal???? Hobbyzone recommended the Delta Ray to me, but honestly, I think it's an ugly plane (I am not into the "jet" thing at all). So, where can you find a large double-engine plane, that's rudder/elevator only, that's as nice as the Firebird was (and as cheap)?
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Old Jul 20, 2014, 01:45 AM
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Champs Big Brother coming soon

You are in luck, check the Horizon site and you will see that HobbyZone will b e releasing a new 4 channel high wing trainer.

This plane will be 2 inches longer in the fuselage and the wingspan will be 2 inches wider than the Champ.

http://www.horizonhobby.com/products...nology-HBZ4400

Like you I was very apprehensive to fly the T-28, too fast and too fragile. I will consider one later.

However, I have preordered one of the HobbyZone Sport Clubs in thier new micro series.

If it is any where near a good flyer as the Champ, Horizon has them selves a winner.
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Old Jul 20, 2014, 12:25 PM
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I saw that lastnight.
Yes, finally a Champ with ailerons!
Yay!!!!!!
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Old Sep 04, 2014, 10:54 PM
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Horizon Sports Cub S

I am very happy to see that there are no wing supports on the new Horizon Sports Cub S model.

The Champ does not have them, the small Carbon Cub has wing supports but they are useless, they are so fragile that they break off even on soft landings, they can not take a hard landing, the small supports are not available on their own and are usually lost when the supports break.

The small Carbon Cub also is very fragile, unless you have a paved strip even landing on grass will flip the plane and quite often damage the tail section beyond repair, I have gone through a number of tail sections a few wing replacements.

If I need to choose between the two, the Champ and the small Carbon Cub I will take the Champ, it takes a lot of damage and is easily repairable, the Carbon Cub on the other hand is just too delicate a plane for anything other than a paved runway. It just falls apart if flown on grass playgrounds.
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