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Old Jan 18, 2011, 03:18 AM
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Yes my #3 works with the firmware for the HD loaded, although I'm not sure if I'm able to remove the black bar now by repeating the date removal for the #3. Will test it tomorrow.
DON'T! Like Tom says, you cannot interchange firmware for completely different processors. As it is, your #3 is not running the #11 firmware - the black bars prove this. If you download the #11 firmware to your #3 (using the ISP program) you will almost certainly destroy your #3. Never even think about interchanging firmware between #s', never.
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Old Jan 18, 2011, 07:16 AM
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It seems the HD808 is really in flux, as early users of the camera work out the kinks, and Tom has done a great job of relaying your input back and forth between the creators and the RCG gang. I've been holding off on buying the HD version because it sounds like they are not very user friendly. I'm still waiting to see what the final product will look like.

Tony
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Old Jan 18, 2011, 07:22 AM
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Tony, I personally think the HD camera is a little easier to use than the #3 was. It actually has a charge LED to let you know when it's charging and when it's done. It's buttons are easier to figure out, and the webcam mode actually works on Windows 7 (and looks great too). For some, the h.264 compression in the .mov container can be an issue, but I was already set up for editing it having a couple of other cameras that produce the same kind of video. Removing the timestamp is as easy as dragging and dropping a file, and turning the camera off and back on again. It also works with a memory card that was too slow for the #8 and marginal for the #3. All in all, it's a winner for me!
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Old Jan 18, 2011, 07:32 AM
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Thanks for that input, Keith. BTW, did you get the package I sent?

Tony
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Old Jan 18, 2011, 07:36 AM
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The ONLY similarity between ANY of the old 808 cameras and the HD key cam is the plastic case it comes in. EVRYTHING is different in the HD key cam, different CMOS module, vastly different video processor, etc. etc., and IMHO, it is erroneous to call it the #11 as was done on ChuckLohr's site. It leads to assumptions as was just posted that the #3 loaded the HD firmware. It didn't, and the black bars seen on the #3 still pictures are part of it's firmware. Even though the date removal process that the old 808 uses erases the font that gets displayed, it doesn't remove the black background they were on! Simple as that.
Correction noted - Thanks.
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Old Jan 18, 2011, 07:42 AM
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Thanks for that input, Keith. BTW, did you get the package I sent?

Tony
Not yet, maybe today! I'll let you know!
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Old Jan 18, 2011, 07:49 AM
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Ok, here you go, being a novice how do I make, convert MOV to WMV and not loose the HD quality? I have had a MOV from a friends Droid that looked and sounded great on the phone but when added to WMM it lost quality. Whats best for Win XP pro?
Tom J.
PS: Diana said send the brick back, and I have another one on the way.
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Old Jan 18, 2011, 08:38 AM
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Ordered 2

Just ordered two from power-gps. Glad to see the date and time stamp can be removed, albeit with great caution as described in post # 3.

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Old Jan 18, 2011, 10:08 AM
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So, if I'm doing the pin4-modification I can just use hot glue, right?
What is the 'pin4-modification' you are doing?
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Old Jan 18, 2011, 10:11 AM
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The following video was taken with a HD key chain cam and edited entirely with OpenShot using 64-bit Ubuntu 10.04 (Lucid Lynx).

Vas
That's a great video! Also a fine save in such a tight area
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Old Jan 18, 2011, 10:43 AM
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High altitude with the 808HD on a Slowstick:
High Altitude Night Slowstick with HD Camera (5 min 47 sec)
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Old Jan 18, 2011, 12:03 PM
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There was a post a while back that mentioned an anti-vignetting filter or plugin for VirtualDub, or maybe it was for AviDemux. Has anyone tried anything like that?

I guess the vignetting, or flashlight effect, or whatever, is really noticeable to me in the videos posted here. I remember that someone tried enlarging the opening in the case, and it made no difference. So it comes down to the lens/sensor combination they chose that causes the problem. Well, maybe that's something they would consider changing. In the meantime, I just wonder whether a software filter might help.
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Old Jan 18, 2011, 12:24 PM
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High altitude with the 808HD on a Slowstick:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TagXHwATQLM
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Excellent, I watched all of the video. Well done. I don't even watch my own videos to the end.

Bill
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Old Jan 18, 2011, 01:11 PM
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For those of you that may be using Linux, OpenShot Video Editor works very well for editing HD videos.
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Thanks for the link to the OpenShot project. Though only compiled for Liunux right now, I see they are soliciting programmer support to cross-compile for Windows platforms. I'll be keeping an eye on this... for open source freeware, this editor has a ton of features not found in other open source editors. I'd send in some $$ donation for the author's effort on something like this if it works well!

BTW, although not humorous to you at the time I'm sure, the slo-mo shot of your prop fluttering away in the breeze made me chuckle a bit having had similar things happen, but with no camera on board to capture it. It's really neat how these little cameras can capture events like that for later "enjoyment" Good that it happened at altitude where you had the time and room to do a very meticulous deadstick landing. Nice recovery!
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Old Jan 18, 2011, 01:19 PM
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Tony, I personally think the HD camera is a little easier to use than the #3 was. It actually has a charge LED to let you know when it's charging and when it's done. It's buttons are easier to figure out, and the webcam mode actually works on Windows 7 (and looks great too). For some, the h.264 compression in the .mov container can be an issue, but I was already set up for editing it having a couple of other cameras that produce the same kind of video. Removing the timestamp is as easy as dragging and dropping a file, and turning the camera off and back on again. It also works with a memory card that was too slow for the #8 and marginal for the #3. All in all, it's a winner for me!
I'll second this! Many of us are really picky about tweaking things, and much of the early posting has been in regards to that.

This camera works very well right out of the box, is much better than my #3 808 cams, and there should be no concern with removing the time/date stamp with any camera purchased now. I need to go back and edit my early post about this. Only two early purchasers have had any problem with the procedure bricking their camera, and the vendors are replacing those for free.
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