Espritmodel.com Telemetry Radio
Reply
Thread Tools
Old Jan 28, 2013, 12:46 AM
BahamaHeli
kdean's Avatar
The Bahamas
Joined Dec 2010
3,616 Posts
Ive neen trying to narrow down my heli collection for a while now but its hard for me to just sell off the ones i dont fly. At one point i had three 400's, two 450's, a 120, a 500, and a 600. Also two co-ax helis that i let my son fly. Im now down to two 400's, one 450, two 500's, two 600's (one still being parted together), the 120, and now three co-ax helis that my son flies. Oh yeah, and a plane. I actually saw the 450pro that i sold today, and was missing it in my collection. I wanna sell another 400, the 120, and a 500, but for some reason im not pushing the issue. All i need is one good 450, 500, and 600, and i would be fine. But the sentimental attachment i have with my birds wont let me get rid of any. They would have to go to a good home, with someone that would love to fly the $#!+ out of it, and not just crash it and leave it in a closet somewhere. Even if i sold those three, i would probably use the money to buy a 700 or 800 anyway.
kdean is online now Find More Posts by kdean
Reply With Quote
Sign up now
to remove ads between posts
Old Jan 28, 2013, 01:08 AM
Closed Account
Joined Aug 2007
4,497 Posts
Yes, thinking about it, I'm pretty messed up with priorities. And money. It did feel good to take apart the 2nd 500, and that was that. The 1st TT 500 has been working flawlessly. I haven't missed the second belt 500 at all. I'll pick apart two nice 450s for spare parts. I'll have one 450 and one 500 & both BeastX FWIW. Yay!
eagle777 is offline Find More Posts by eagle777
Last edited by eagle777; Jan 28, 2013 at 01:47 AM. Reason: So many decisions.
Reply With Quote
Old Jan 28, 2013, 01:32 AM
Closed Account
Joined Aug 2007
4,497 Posts
Fek, lame. Pics tomorrow. I have a cold.
eagle777 is offline Find More Posts by eagle777
Last edited by eagle777; Jan 28, 2013 at 01:56 AM.
Reply With Quote
Old Jan 28, 2013, 07:24 AM
Registered User
mhills51's Avatar
kansas city
Joined Feb 2007
11,902 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by eagle777 View Post
Yes, thinking about it, I'm pretty messed up with priorities. And money. It did feel good to take apart the 2nd 500, and that was that. The 1st TT 500 has been working flawlessly. I haven't missed the second belt 500 at all. I'll pick apart two nice 450s for spare parts. I'll have one 450 and one 500 & both BeastX FWIW. Yay!
I was the same. I have about four 450se's in many pieces for my scale. I was keeping two 450pro's going, but decided to use one for parts. I only have two 500's because I put one in the airwolf or it would of been a waste and sold by now. It will be interesting what will change with my logo coming on line this spring.

Oh I completely forgot my two 250's sitting on my work bench lol! my two mulit's and a walkera mini CP
mhills51 is offline Find More Posts by mhills51
RCG Plus Member
Old Jan 28, 2013, 02:17 PM
Registered User
Atomic Skull's Avatar
Joined Dec 2011
3,062 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by eagle777 View Post
What is the difference of 200hz vs 65hz cyclic anyway. I couldn't tell a difference in the 45 minutes I flew.

I'll just re-install my HS65MGs again. Those Ti gears are so sweet though.
Only matters for FBL controllers, higher control bandwidth allows for higher gain settings without causing cyclic wobble. Even then a quality analog will allow higher gain than a poor quality low resolution digital.

In a flybar helicopter you won't notice any difference at all. In fact most RX's only put out a 22ms or 12ms control signal so holding power of the output shaft is the only difference and that's not likely to be noticeable in flight performance unless you're using very weak servos.
Atomic Skull is offline Find More Posts by Atomic Skull
Reply With Quote
Old Jan 28, 2013, 05:07 PM
Closed Account
Joined Aug 2007
4,497 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by Atomic Skull View Post
Only matters for FBL controllers, higher control bandwidth allows for higher gain settings without causing cyclic wobble. Even then a quality analog will allow higher gain than a poor quality low resolution digital.

In a flybar helicopter you won't notice any difference at all. In fact most RX's only put out a 22ms or 12ms control signal so holding power of the output shaft is the only difference and that's not likely to be noticeable in flight performance unless you're using very weak servos.
That makes sense, thanks.
eagle777 is offline Find More Posts by eagle777
Reply With Quote
Old Jan 29, 2013, 02:35 PM
Registered User
Atomic Skull's Avatar
Joined Dec 2011
3,062 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by eagle777 View Post
That makes sense, thanks.
Forgot to mention that a 12ms control signal is only for digital servos. With analog servos you should use 22ms. If the RX doesn't have an option for this then it's putting out a 22ms signal.
Atomic Skull is offline Find More Posts by Atomic Skull
Reply With Quote
Old Jan 29, 2013, 06:16 PM
Registered User
Canada, ON, Ottawa
Joined Sep 2012
15 Posts
Hey guys quick question i tore apart the hk 500 aloy tail to grease it, when i put it back together and tighten the feathering shaft screws the grips bind.I made sure everything is correct should i back off the screw a bit when it binds or is that not right.
leeve is offline Find More Posts by leeve
Reply With Quote
Old Jan 29, 2013, 07:09 PM
Closed Account
Joined Aug 2007
4,497 Posts
Some back out the screw and use red locktite. I don't really like that solution, and just got the Align grips and hub.
http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...l-Rotor-Holder
eagle777 is offline Find More Posts by eagle777
Reply With Quote
Old Jan 29, 2013, 07:11 PM
..................
Dejavu*Xion's Avatar
United States, NV, Las Vegas
Joined Aug 2012
3,461 Posts
Yes back off just a tad...Be sure and use loktite blue ( or clear nail polish ) on screw tips..Be sure ya dont get any into bearings,,Use a toothpick. Same goes for all the screws in your tail section. Want them all just tight enough, yet have a smooth action.
Dejavu*Xion is offline Find More Posts by Dejavu*Xion
Reply With Quote
Old Jan 29, 2013, 07:14 PM
..................
Dejavu*Xion's Avatar
United States, NV, Las Vegas
Joined Aug 2012
3,461 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by eagle777 View Post
Some back out the screw and use red locktite. I don't really like that solution, and just got the Align grips and hub.
http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...l-Rotor-Holder
Red ??....Good chance he may strip his bolt-heads next time he needs to take em out. And + 1 for those align tail rotors..I have had those hk screws break twice in flight bringing the whole machine down in a dirty way..Those Hk tail rotor hubs and screws are a weak link in the kit..-Imo- of course. I think evltoy is the only one to date to get away with not having to buy this upgrade. ha
Dejavu*Xion is offline Find More Posts by Dejavu*Xion
Reply With Quote
Old Jan 29, 2013, 07:37 PM
Registered User
Canada, ON, Ottawa
Joined Sep 2012
15 Posts
Ok thanks guys i am thinking of getting the metal tarrot ones does anybody have any experience with these.
leeve is offline Find More Posts by leeve
Reply With Quote
Old Jan 29, 2013, 07:48 PM
..................
Dejavu*Xion's Avatar
United States, NV, Las Vegas
Joined Aug 2012
3,461 Posts
I dont...But me personally at only $13 i would go with eagle777 "Align" link. But yes, tarot would be a grade above hk in all areas of a kit/parts
Dejavu*Xion is offline Find More Posts by Dejavu*Xion
Reply With Quote
Old Jan 29, 2013, 08:08 PM
Closed Account
Joined Aug 2007
4,497 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by leeve View Post
Ok thanks guys i am thinking of getting the metal tarrot ones does anybody have any experience with these.
I've just used the Tarot 450 grips and hub. The 500 slider is fine FWIW.
eagle777 is offline Find More Posts by eagle777
Reply With Quote
Old Jan 29, 2013, 08:11 PM
Closed Account
Joined Aug 2007
4,497 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dejavu*Xion View Post
Red ??....Good chance he may strip his bolt-heads next time he needs to take em out. And + 1 for those align tail rotors..I have had those hk screws break twice in flight bringing the whole machine down in a dirty way..Those Hk tail rotor hubs and screws are a weak link in the kit..-Imo- of course. I think evltoy is the only one to date to get away with not having to buy this upgrade. ha
The thread fit on the my HK hubs seemed pretty loose, and I wouldn't trust blue to hold a screw in place. I think there was some discussion here like a year ago about that. I can't remember if it was the HK GT -> CMT metal tail upgrade? I think it was.
eagle777 is offline Find More Posts by eagle777
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools

Similar Threads
Category Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
I got some Fan Fold what to build thread part II started by emoone!!! Don Sims Foamies (Kits) 188 Jan 23, 2010 08:28 PM
Mountain Models Tantrum Partial Build Thread.. Tram Parkflyers 142 Apr 03, 2004 10:41 PM
My Bobolink Build Thread (very Colibri like) Jim Poor Hand Launch 65 Dec 10, 2003 04:48 PM
Laird Super Solution Build Thread! boomerace Parkflyers 178 Oct 29, 2003 07:20 PM
Switchback re-build thread (or What the $#*& was that!) Biggles604 Parkflyers 17 Jun 23, 2003 09:34 PM