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Old Sep 11, 2013, 10:13 AM
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Great photo RogerDH!

MO - any chance you could clear up the motor direction confusion that has been going on for a few days?
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Old Sep 11, 2013, 10:52 AM
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The title says it all. It is confusing to say the least. I don't know what everyone's take on the motor direction is.

If my historical info is correct, I think the RC planes came before any of the helicopters and Quadcopters. Plane guys always speak of the orientation from the cockpit view. They look at the motor and the prop in that orientation.

But when the helicopters and Quads came to the market, people found it convenient to describe the direction from the top down view, which is just the opposite of the plane view.

While some pilots have a plane background, they still continue to speak one way, many new pilots came into the hobby bypassing that step and got straight into helicopters or quads. So now, which way did you mean?

I think the only solution is to add a comment when you talk about motor/prop spinning direction. You would say, the prop is turning CW (from top down), or the motor is CCW (looking from behind the motor), or something like that. Clumsy, I admit. But what else could you really do?
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Old Sep 11, 2013, 12:49 PM
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http://www.banggood.com/HD-808-No_18...4-p-86784.html

new camera on banggood. banggood don't do mobius but maybe this is nearly as good!?
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Old Sep 11, 2013, 12:50 PM
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my V262 yesterday afternoon and thanks to all the info posted in this thread I refrained from taking it out and blasting up to the stratosphere.

First up was removing a bit of excess weight and then breaking in the motors. I just did a dry break-in but I cleaned and lube’d everything so hopefully it will give me a few extra flights for my troubles.

Also I grabbed a hoten-x cover, I haven’t wired up the lights yet but for 8 bucks I think it looks pretty cool.
where did you buy the hoton x cover. gotta get one of these!!
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Old Sep 11, 2013, 01:01 PM
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So here's the way I do orientation. For me prop rotation is the direction the prop has to spin in order to provide thrust AWAY from you while you're looking at the prop. Motor rotation is the direction the shaft\brass gear spins when you're looking directly at the spinning shaft.

It's quite simple now with a geared setup. Since the motor is upside down and spinning in the opposite direction of the prop, those two negatives cancel out each other. A CW spinning prop on a gear-driven WL Toys quad (and those whose motor pinion faces down) spins in the same direction, CW. Same goes for CCW

Other quads such as the HJ-998 where the motor is upside down (pinion facing up), I believe the prop and motor directions would be opposite.

Please correct me if I'm wrong.
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Old Sep 11, 2013, 01:37 PM
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Please correct me if I'm wrong.
Thanks, I just wanted confirmation that WLToys designates a motor is CW or CCW using the "standard" reference point of looking at it from the output shaft end.

EDIT: Just to summarize, that means that for the V262 looking from the top, left front and right rear are CW motors, and the other two are CCW.
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Old Sep 11, 2013, 01:49 PM
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Thanks, I just wanted confirmation that WLToys designates a motor is CW or CCW using the "standard" reference point of looking at it from the output shaft end.

EDIT: Just to summarize, that means that for the V262 looking from the top, left front and right rear are CW motors, and the other two are CCW.
Yep, this is how I would describe them when selling parts.
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Old Sep 11, 2013, 02:51 PM
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Yep, no disagreement from me, gents. I think the Quad community favors this TOP view referencing. But just be warned that when you order other plane props and use them on your Quads, for instance, ordering GWS props for mini Quads, you might be in for a surprise, because the plane community looks at them from a different angle.
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Old Sep 11, 2013, 03:10 PM
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We used to say "shaft end" or "lead end" when we had to designate rotation when ordering 120v motors for RTU's air conditioners and furnaces. I know that doesn't help clarify bit I am bored and felt like typing
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Old Sep 11, 2013, 03:30 PM
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Maybe it's too simplistic, but I would suspect that WL Toys would designate the motors as CW or CCW based upon the prop rotation as seen from above the quad (regardless of the gear) because most consumers would probably just look at the props. This approach results in the rotation MO stated.
Has anyone had an opportunity to "open up" the replacement motors to see if they are actually different inside?
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Old Sep 11, 2013, 03:58 PM
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Great, thanks everyone for the clarification.

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Has anyone had an opportunity to "open up" the replacement motors to see if they are actually different inside?
Just what I was about to ask. I need to order more motors, but does it actually matter what I order (can I just reverse the leads)?
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Old Sep 11, 2013, 04:02 PM
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Great, thanks everyone for the clarification.



Just what I was about to ask. I need to order more motors, but does it actually matter what I order (can I just reverse the leads)?
And to add more trouble, I am quiet sure that BG motors are in pratice the same Hope I am wrong
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Old Sep 11, 2013, 04:07 PM
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And to add more trouble, I am quiet sure that BG motors are in pratice the same Hope I am wrong
Only time will tell... or my shipped package that on its way with 2 CW and CCW motors
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Old Sep 11, 2013, 04:15 PM
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Only time will tell... or my shipped package that on its way with 2 CW and CCW motors
I received 2 x 4 last week .... but don't want to sacrifice one ....

I am thinking, that, with a very low voltage battery ( 0.1V for example) in order to make spinning very slowly the motor, we should notice an slightly higher impedence when the motor is spinning in the wrong sens ?
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Old Sep 11, 2013, 05:23 PM
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I don't know if I've already mentioned it, but I flew my V262 very aggressively (it's too damn fun!!) so that may have contributed to the early motor death.
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