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Old Jul 02, 2014, 04:22 PM
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That's rather odd, because both the JR and Futaba channel orders have gear on CH5 and Aux1 on CH6. Something would have to be wrong for them to be swapped.

I would double check what you are seeing to make sure there isn't something in the transmitter programming that's causing the problem.

If you are sure there an issue, you might want to reprogram the module. That requires a special programmer, not the regular HK USB.
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Old Jul 04, 2014, 08:06 PM
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Even if it was swapping ch5 and ch6 (which I doubt) that would be no problem for the Taranis since you could just assign them the other way around.

Any chance you can post your eepe, either here or better in one of the Taranis threads?

Pat MacKenzie
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Old Jul 04, 2014, 11:46 PM
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You guys make sense and I am not sure what happened but somehow it was reversed, than the oddest thing happened.
Unfortunatelly I don't know how I can re-assign ch 5 and 6 the other way around.

With the HK Orange module, the PZ Sukhoi rx AR636 only worked if I used ch 6 as GEAR and ch 5 as AUX1 and should be the opposite.
I after trying a zillion times and using different mixes and switch combinations I had the idea to try a DX5 hack module instead the orange module.
I created the mixes with GEAR/ch 6 and AUX1/ch 5, bound it and everything worked fine as it suppose to work when you using a DX9 or DX18.

Than I removed the DX5 Hack module put back the HK module, copied the mixes used w/the DX5 and guess what? It worked!! I could not believe that...I spent almost a day trying to figure it out but I was happy.

Honestly I dont know if I was messing up or the AR636 was getting wrong info out of the Orange module and straitened up with the spektrum module but I guess I will never know..
The first screenshot is the inverted setup and the second one the correct setup same as the Spektrum module , on the inverted setup I was using Replace in a atempt to make it work but I have used Add as well and no luck.
The DX5 hack setup worked right away and no need to use Replace.
Pat I cannot attach the eepe here as that format is not alowed but I could send you both via email.
Thanks again!
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Old Jul 05, 2014, 02:25 AM
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You have two of the switch positions swapped in the "backwards" one, SB- should be at 0% not -100%

Far simpler would be to set it up with the switches as the sources, rather than using MAX and the switches to enable the mix line.



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CH6 SB Weight(+100%)
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Old Jul 06, 2014, 12:20 AM
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Thank you Pat, I will try to replicate your suggestion and see how it comes up and interacts with the AR636 rx.
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Old Aug 30, 2014, 05:41 PM
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Binding Orange TX to Orange Rx at 22ms?

Hi guys,

It has been some time since I posted on RCGroups, (but I have been "lurking"). I was active back in days of getting the Assan and Spektrum 2.4Ghz modules working in various Txs' some 5 or 6 years ago.

I have been using Assan, Spektrum, and lately FrSky modules in my Kraft, Futaba, and Multiplex Txs', with to date only a single in-air link failure, which was caused by MY setup mistake. 2.4Ghz technology is the best thing to happen to R/C since Doug Sprengs' "digital" servo last century.

Lately my club has been going bananas about Oranges and the 9XR Tx, and as the resident Fix-it Man, I have been caught up in the whirlpool, including first learning, and then teaching how to program OSS Txs'.

I understand the Orange 3 press mode change routine , but I have been unable to get an Orange Tx module/Orange Rx combo to bind at 22ms, it always defaults to 11ms, which really upsets some of the older analog servos.

Spektrum Tx to Orange Rx and Orange TX to Spektrum Rx all bind at 22ms. Interestingly, I found that with the Orange/Orange combo, the Rx changes to 22ms when the Tx is turned off, (failsafe condition), but returns to 11ms when the Tx is turned on again.

Am I missing something, or is the Orange/Orange system only suitable for use with digital servos? (Orange 2.4GHz DIY Tx Module/Orange R710 Rx),

EGB.
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Old Aug 30, 2014, 05:54 PM
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It seems to depend on which Orange receiver you are using. The R615 binds to the module as DSM2 22ms (no flashes) while the R620 binds as DSM2 11ms (one flash, repeated). However, I've had no problem using the R620 with a wide range of analog servos.
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Old Aug 31, 2014, 01:44 PM
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It seems to depend on which Orange receiver you are using. The R615 binds to the module as DSM2 22ms (no flashes) while the R620 binds as DSM2 11ms (one flash, repeated). However, I've had no problem using the R620 with a wide range of analog servos.

The above is correct. I also have the DIY 2.4Ghz module in a old 72Mhz TX. The module will look at the RX and bind at what the RX will take. If your servos dont like the 11ms then your out of luck.

I have some older DSM2, RX's that will bind at 22ms and I use them. You cannot force the TX module to 22ms with a RX that is capable of 11ms it will always default to the fastest mode.

Now with a Spketrum DX8, and others you can force it to the slower rates
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Old Sep 01, 2014, 03:38 AM
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Thanks for the replies, they clear up a few things.

A few weeks ago I was helping a fellow club member with his new Orange setup in an older model, A couple of the servos (Futaba, I don't remember what type), were buzzing and moving erratically. We swapped them out and carried on.

Last week I was fitting an Orange DIY module into a Futaba system for another club mate when it happened again. This was when I realised the system was binding at 11ms. I checked a few more servos, most seemed OK, but a couple were "distressed".

Last Century I spent many hours optimizing Kraft KPS-14 & 15 servos for the Signature Series radios. Getting the timing constants (particuly for the pulse stretcher) right for the system frame rate was a big factor in good performance. Now a little CPU does it for us.

BTW, the servos swapped out earlier have now been checked in a 22ms system.
They are of course quite OK.

Cheers, EGB.
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