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Old Oct 29, 2009, 11:05 AM
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"boxen" is an old geek thing... I think that "oxen" predates it though
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Old Oct 29, 2009, 11:12 AM
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"boxen" is an old geek thing... I think that "oxen" predates it though
Quit clouding the issue with facts.
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Old Oct 29, 2009, 11:17 AM
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Quit clouding the issue with facts.
Fact is, it is in the mail
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Old Oct 29, 2009, 01:23 PM
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Hi Guys...

It's too bad that Vox props are imported by Precision Aerobatics, as due to problems my son and I had with them, I refuse to buy anything from them again...

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Old Oct 29, 2009, 01:27 PM
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IMHO, props as this size is not that different / crucial. My preference is for APC as they are cheaper, and more durable.
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Old Oct 29, 2009, 01:49 PM
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IMHO, props as this size is not that different / crucial
...it's certainly not the difference between a good flying plane and a bad flying plane, any of them will work, but the differences in props are obvious. There are good and bad props from the smallest to the biggest. Price alone may have you put up with a noisy or inefficient prop, but they're very different. Wood props are more durable than the APC-E's in my opinion, but naturally not as cheap to replace. A good wood prop is so much quieter than APC-E it's ridiculous.

Then again, I hung out with a prop guy for many years, I may be prop biased. But the result from changing from APC-E to a good wood prop is night and day... it's just a question of how long you can make it last against your wallet's stamina. Bolly was about to come out with competition to the APC-E's before circumstances (ok, a-holes) closed his doors... we just wont know how good a glass-filled prop can be as a result.
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Old Oct 29, 2009, 03:25 PM
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As soon as Ben's # is non-busy my 330SC will be on order!
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Old Oct 29, 2009, 03:27 PM
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As soon as Ben's # is non-busy my 330SC will be on order!
Congrats!!!
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Old Oct 29, 2009, 03:29 PM
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As soon as Ben's # is non-busy my 330SC will be on order!
Good call!!
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Old Oct 29, 2009, 03:33 PM
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IMHO, props as this size is not that different / crucial.
I think changing props (especially between wood and plastic) makes a big difference on flight characteristics and feel.
Especially on lower power setups.
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Old Oct 29, 2009, 03:47 PM
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It is ordered.

Zomg. This will rock.
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Old Oct 29, 2009, 03:58 PM
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What I'm saying is that whatever performance gain you might have, it likely comes at a price (ie. amp draw). Having flown the same setup with Xoar / APC, the Xoar will draw less amps, but also has less bite IMHO.

As for durability. My APC will survive many more prop strikes / bonedoc landings, whereas with the Xoar, one shot, and you're gone.
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Old Oct 29, 2009, 04:12 PM
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Really, my only complaint about APC's is *WHY* do they have to be so sharp? If nothing else, the concensus is that the better wood props are at least as good overall in performance...and you can't cut up a steak with those. Obviously, sharp edges are not necessary.

I boggle at this. Which company in Rc is by far the most likely to be sued? It has to be a prop company...why would they produce a letter opener to spin around at 8,000 RPM if it's not necessary?

First thing, I blunt all my APC E's on the TE. I'm convinced it's not a performance decrease.
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Old Oct 29, 2009, 04:15 PM
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What I'm saying is that whatever performance gain you might have, it likely comes at a price (ie. amp draw). Having flown the same setup with Xoar / APC, the Xoar will draw less amps, but also has less bite IMHO.

As for durability. My APC will survive many more prop strikes / bonedoc landings, whereas with the Xoar, one shot, and you're gone.
ever played with a thrust stand?... props are not created equal, there's as much tech in props as there is in any other component of the aircraft. Like a lot of things, fascinating stuff when you dig into it. Nobody can deny that APC-E's have good performance at a great price. What I like about the wood props; they're lighter so they spool faster, they're super quiet so less annoying sound on cavitating maneuvers, draw less amps because of the above.
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Old Oct 29, 2009, 04:16 PM
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...the only way to really know if wood props are more sturdy and APC's is to fly Vypers into corn. It was one prop per shot with APC-E's... just need test data for the wood props.
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