New Product Eagle Eyes Ground Station: Antenna Tracking, Diversity, Telemetry, distribution

[pratorian]

Originally Posted by reznikvova

You sure know me well.

I'll show you the same ..

Watch this space.

I don't understand what you mean Vova

[pratorian]

Originally Posted by ssassen

First batches were sold at the FPV event in L'Aigle last week. New batches are about to be shipped out to the distributors and resellers. As for the website, that indeed needs to be updated, but I only have one pair of hands, a busy daytime job, a family and there's only about 24 hours in a day. I'll get to that soon, at least before the products appear in stores.

Cheers,

Sander.

So it's not really available yet but almost... just try to ease off when you're posting in an other manufacturer's thread, IMO there's nothing wrong with promoting your stuff but I really thought you went over the fence this time around (I'm not the one who reported your post tho lol so I guess I'm not the only one who thought that)

I'm sure everybody knows all you guys have daytime jobs, families etc. so a 1-2 month delay on your initial release date is good when you don't have paid pre-orders. I'm not blaming you for your website not being updated every day, your post just made it sound like the tracker and OSD had been available for a while.

good luck with your products, looking forward to read the reviews

[Acorns]

Originally Posted by pratorian

I don't understand what you mean Vova

An antenna tracker? If so, with rvosd v2, I will be very happy.

[G-unit]

[quote=ssassen]. I'm kind of allergic to manufacturers misinforming their customers and can be pretty strong worded when it comes to that.


Then u must be pretty disappointed with your self!!

[billpa]

Howdy!

What a fun thread. Having teenagers around the house has taught me that sometimes not responding to inflammatory comments is best policy.
That said, I'm glad to address any concerns people may have about Eagle Tree, our products, or our track record on delivering what we promise.

Re pricing, we are still in the $50-$70 range, even with all the doubting. But don't worry, there will be opportunities to pay more elsewhere.

Good news - I think I've figured out how to get our full telemetry packet (with all sensors + GPS + Spektrum RX health, etc.) down to the ground at 10hz over the video stream. That will be kind of a breakthrough if it works, I think: video + full telemetry + live sounds + spoken voice alerts + variometer, all on the same wire.

Here's a question for you folks: I'd originally intended to have the PC telemetry interface require a USB adapter cable. The cable will be around $20. But, we can build the USB interface directly into the "Eagle Eyes" for about $10. I am not sure how many people want the live PC telemetry, and would love feedback on whether we should build it in or have it as an add-on.
Note that firmware update will be fully supported regardless.

ACK on leaving off the extra 1-2 A/V outputs and the audio quality checks if these increase prices. I've been working on the design today, and I may have found a way to have the 2 extra outputs without a big cost adder, but testing will verify this.

techspy, re alternatives to Google Earth for terrain viewing, I'm not aware of any. Our software will plot the GPS position in either 2D or 3D, and you can load a map of the image as a background. But, that's a poor substitute for the features of Google Earth.

Re rearranging the instruments on our PC software, good news on this front also. We're working on a project that lets the instruments be fully relocatable, and also will allow resizing of the main screen. This is about 30% implemented now. It's been slowed down with all the OSD-Pro enhancements that have been requested, but those are mostly done now.

What I want to do ultimately is host the video inside our app, for a fully seamless experience. That's something I suspect we will do later this year.

Please keep the feedback coming!

Regards,

Bill, for Eagle Tree

[G-unit]

USB adapter cable,
Can we just use the one that we have with the E-logger??

[JustinONE]

I know I asked about it a long time ago...but I really would like to be able to locate 2-4 aircraft in that are flying nearby. Is there a way to rx another models GPS coordinates and display them over OSD-Pro?


This feature could also double as fixed ground waypoints, for setting up Crosscountry race-course, or larger highspeed pylon race courses..

[billpa]

G, the USB cable that comes with the eLogger will work with the Eagle Eyes, if we add the USB interface on the board (with the additional cost). My hunch is that most people will want to keep that separate, as many folks don't bring laptops to the field and/or won't need the telemetry. But, definitely want feedback on this.

Justin, yes, that would be possible, but a bit challenging. The easiest way would be if we could have two Eagle Eyes systems tethered together (one for each plane). However, if the pilots were apart on the field, there would need to be two way telemetry between the planes (which we also supply), and some firmware would need to be written.

Regards,

Bill, for Eagle Tree

[Acorns]

Originally Posted by billpa

G, the USB cable that comes with the eLogger will work with the Eagle Eyes, if we add the USB interface on the board (with the additional cost). My hunch is that most people will want to keep that separate, as many folks don't bring laptops to the field and/or won't need the telemetry. But, definitely want feedback on this.

Regards,

Bill, for Eagle Tree

Less custom cables are better! If you build it in, will it just be usb->usb or usb-mini->usb? This would be what I would prefer; I carry a set of generic cables around, but hate getting to the field and realizing I forgot/misplaced a specialized cable. Even more so if I can't find it later and have to figure out a way to get another.

[tychoc]

Here's a question for you folks: I'd originally intended to have the PC telemetry interface require a USB adapter cable. The cable will be around $20. But, we can build the USB interface directly into the "Eagle Eyes" for about $10. I am not sure how many people want the live PC telemetry, and would love feedback on whether we should build it in or have it as an add-on.
Note that firmware update will be fully supported regardless.

I would prefer paying $10 more but have the USB built in and just use a regular USB cable.

Having full telemetry over the video stream would be great! Can't wait to see how this will progress.

thanks,

-tychoc

[techspy]

Originally Posted by billpa

Howdy!

What a fun thread. Having teenagers around the house has taught me that sometimes not responding to inflammatory comments is best policy.
That said, I'm glad to address any concerns people may have about Eagle Tree, our products, or our track record on delivering what we promise.

Re pricing, we are still in the $50-$70 range, even with all the doubting. But don't worry, there will be opportunities to pay more elsewhere.

Good news - I think I've figured out how to get our full telemetry packet (with all sensors + GPS + Spektrum RX health, etc.) down to the ground at 10hz over the video stream. That will be kind of a breakthrough if it works, I think: video + full telemetry + live sounds + spoken voice alerts + variometer, all on the same wire.

Here's a question for you folks: I'd originally intended to have the PC telemetry interface require a USB adapter cable. The cable will be around $20. But, we can build the USB interface directly into the "Eagle Eyes" for about $10. I am not sure how many people want the live PC telemetry, and would love feedback on whether we should build it in or have it as an add-on.
Note that firmware update will be fully supported regardless.

ACK on leaving off the extra 1-2 A/V outputs and the audio quality checks if these increase prices. I've been working on the design today, and I may have found a way to have the 2 extra outputs without a big cost adder, but testing will verify this.

techspy, re alternatives to Google Earth for terrain viewing, I'm not aware of any. Our software will plot the GPS position in either 2D or 3D, and you can load a map of the image as a background. But, that's a poor substitute for the features of Google Earth.

Re rearranging the instruments on our PC software, good news on this front also. We're working on a project that lets the instruments be fully relocatable, and also will allow resizing of the main screen. This is about 30% implemented now. It's been slowed down with all the OSD-Pro enhancements that have been requested, but those are mostly done now.

What I want to do ultimately is host the video inside our app, for a fully seamless experience. That's something I suspect we will do later this year.

Please keep the feedback coming!

Regards,

Bill, for Eagle Tree

Sounds great Bill! I for one would like the usb built into the device. Although I have not had any issues with the "servo like" connectors you guys use, I think a real mini usb plug that most cameras etc use would be best. Plus, there are plenty of usb extensions, even powered ones that can go 20 feet etc. That would be handy for being able to locate the Eagle Eyes further away from the laptop if desired.

As for the Google Earth, another alternative is Google Maps. I mention this as a possibility because it uses much less processing power than Google Earth. So, if you are running the telemetry program, recording video etc, it can make a difference. Not a huge deal, just kinda thinking out loud.

Just another thought..If you will eventually have the app hosting the video etc, will there be recording ability? That would be nice!

[JMSTECH]

Originally Posted by billpa

Howdy!

What a fun thread. Having teenagers around the house has taught me that sometimes not responding to inflammatory comments is best policy.

Bill,

Do I know what you mean! I'm starting to practice that myself. I think with you when you say an estimate price or if this product will come... I believe you're they type to deliver. Keep up the fabulous work!!!

[ob1]

Originally Posted by billpa

ACK on leaving off the extra 1-2 A/V outputs and the audio quality checks if these increase prices.

Bill,
Not sure who originally suggested performing audio "quality" checks (it wasn't me) and I agree they should not be performed.....but I will reiterate my original suggestion which states that even though you may not be assesing the "quality" of the audio from each rx, you still need to insure a valid audio signal is present from one rx or the other and provide that on the output connections. I dont know the best way to implement....maybe you simply pick one receiver's audio and stick with it unless you actually lose it then switch to the other. This is not the same as processing the video stream contents to determine what has been lost or can be ignored/repaired/when to switch, etc. And it could prevent a loss of audio output if/when one rx or the other loses the received signal temporarily or permanently. I would normally take the position that says "who cares if the audio is lost"....but if I remember correctly you have mentioned in other posts that one goal for the OSD-Pro is to be able to continue providing audio representations of certain on-screen values, even if the ground-based rx video is not present or perhaps not legible (due to flickering and such) or in the event of lost video signal from the airborne camera.
Thx,
ob1

[eickst]

Without giving away any trade secrets can you share your method for inserting data into the VBI? I've thought about doing this in the past but I have too many projects that are still unfinished.

[bob loblaw]

A lot of company owners don't like what their competitors do. That's when you step it up and win the battle with sales. I doubt trashing the competition online helps with sales.