Trex-500 HANGAR - Page 24

agran1021 · Nov 07, 2009, 09:36 PM

A gentle suggestion: you might buy a hex driver to tighten those nuts. Pliers are okay -- until you've rounded the nut.

KCinNC · Nov 07, 2009, 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jmpwnd

Ouch! I'm sorry to hear that...

I'm trying to "git 'er done" as fast as I'm comfortable building...lol

I just finished installing the blade grips...what a tricky little assembly with the feathering shaft and grease...I installed the grey 70-degree dampers since it said they were best for beginners. Now let's just hope that I didn't get any grease in the threads of the loctite'd screws holding the whole works together!

take a few minutes after a few flights, take off the blades, then check to make sure the feathering shaft screws are still snug . only takes a few minutes to do it...i do this often if i'm not able to fly, and just want to piddle with the Heli's

jmpwnd · Nov 07, 2009, 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by agran1021

A gentle suggestion: you might buy a hex driver to tighten those nuts. Pliers are okay -- until you've rounded the nut.

No need to be gentle...I should have done this to begin with.

I'll get a driver tomorrow.

hancockdw · Nov 08, 2009, 10:58 PM

There's a cheap set of tools at Harbor Freight that has 3 small nut drivers in it. Sitting here I can't remember which common size nut one of them fits. Hmmm, I think there's a 4mm and a 5mm driver; 4mm fits a M2 nut, doesn't it? Don't remember the 3rd size -- it's either 3mm or 6mm.

I actually spent some time on my build this weekend. Motor and electronics are in! Next step will be the smoke test (first power-up). Then set the ESC and the gyro up. At my rate, I might maiden it this year!

Dave

jmpwnd · Nov 09, 2009, 01:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hancockdw

There's a cheap set of tools at Harbor Freight that has 3 small nut drivers in it. Sitting here I can't remember which common size nut one of them fits. Hmmm, I think there's a 4mm and a 5mm driver; 4mm fits a M2 nut, doesn't it? Don't remember the 3rd size -- it's either 3mm or 6mm.

I actually spent some time on my build this weekend. Motor and electronics are in! Next step will be the smoke test (first power-up). Then set the ESC and the gyro up. At my rate, I might maiden it this year!

Dave

I went to the LHS today and found that it was a 5mm hex driver that I needed to get the M2.5 jesus bolt nut on tight. Now the head and main shaft are definitely snug and ready to rock!

I'm one step behind you! I just finished the frame and my next step is to install the servos...this bird has gone together faster than I expected, although if I don't decide on a gyro/tail servo setup soon, I'm going to hit a brick wall...

Get that thing in the sky, Hancock!

hancockdw · Nov 09, 2009, 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jmpwnd

I went to the LHS today and found that it was a 5mm hex driver that I needed to get the M2.5 jesus bolt nut on tight. Now the head and main shaft are definitely snug and ready to rock!

I'm one step behind you! I just finished the frame and my next step is to install the servos...this bird has gone together faster than I expected, although if I don't decide on a gyro/tail servo setup soon, I'm going to hit a brick wall...

Get that thing in the sky, Hancock!

You may still beat me, jmpwnd, even though all I should need to do is install boom supports and do the final electronics setup and testing. I get Wednesday off this week (Veterans' Day), and I'm hoping to take my bird to the LHS to get a sanity check on it, and then, who knows, maybe the bottom of the skids will see daylight!

Uhh, don;t hold you breath or anything, though.

Dave

RotorJockey · Nov 12, 2009, 01:25 AM

Crashed one of my 500's again the other day!

Inverted piro orientation exercise.

Was doing just fine til I thought about it, then WHAM! LOL!

Oh well, first crash in a couple of months.

Think I'll start tearing it down and working on a parts list tomorrow.

Fred

jackclarke · Nov 12, 2009, 06:31 AM

Seems like most us 500 trainees have flown away - found a new hobby - crashed and burned - left the wreckage behind - given up - gone into hibernation. This part of the world, the weather man pushing the rain-cold-wind buttons and probably falling asleep on them. How about some updates? How everyone doing? Anybody know of a 747 hangar not being used? The withdrawal symptoms starting to get bad. Am I the only one left in this thread who still trying to learn non-3D flying - or at least trying to learn non-3D flying?

Evan D · Nov 12, 2009, 08:42 AM

We're here... Same weather problem. Huricane Ida's remnants have been here yesterday and today. Looks nice for the weekend though.
I have my 500ESP Flying very nice. I. move the collective servo's balls out, increased my AFRs and put it on high timing. It really flys nice now.

hancockdw · Nov 12, 2009, 09:00 AM

There's been a number of good flying days here in the Dallas area of late, but it seems my schedule prevents me from taking advantage of 'em most of the time. I'm not a fan of Daylight Saving Time, but it was nice to have time after work to go to the renegade field near my home once in a while. Now it's almost sunset if I can get over there, and the mosquitos are already active.

I did get out yesterday to the club field. Winds were a bit higher than predicted, but I flew my foamie plane and also hovered my 450. No crashes!

Took my 500 to the LHS for their heli guru to bless. He gave it a fairly clean bill of health, then took it out to the parking lot and did an initial test hover. So the bird has maidened, just not with me at the controls. My turn comes soon, I hope!

Oh, I wanted to say something about balance. I'm using the Turnigy 3AH batteries, and I have the ESC under the battery tray. I still have to move the battery forward on the tray to get the bird's CG right! If you're using smaller batts, and put the ESC on the side, how do you balance it?

Dave

RotorJockey · Nov 12, 2009, 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jackclarke

Seems like most us 500 trainees have flown away - found a new hobby - crashed and burned - left the wreckage behind - given up - gone into hibernation. This part of the world, the weather man pushing the rain-cold-wind buttons and probably falling asleep on them. How about some updates? How everyone doing? Anybody know of a 747 hangar not being used? The withdrawal symptoms starting to get bad. Am I the only one left in this thread who still trying to learn non-3D flying - or at least trying to learn non-3D flying?

Can't speak for everyone else, but the day after I re-kitted one of my 500's I left for a short vacation to Gatlinburg.

Back home now and ready to start fixing it.

I'll post some pics of the carnage later.

Fred

jmpwnd · Nov 13, 2009, 07:00 PM

Sorry to hear about the crash, Fred and glad to hear you got her together, Dave! I told you that you'd beat me...I'm still here too, but not with a flyable 500 yet. I've built up most of the bird except I'm driving myself freakin' crazy over what gyro to get...

I don't want to get the DS760 or GY520 because their software is not compatible with Mac, which is all I use. So now, I'm down to the good old Align GP750+DS520 or JR770/370+DS3500. I'm leaning towards the JR again, except that most things I've read say that it's tricky to set up compared to the 750. I wonder how much I'd notice the difference between the 750 and 770 or 370. Most say I will NEVER notice...others say it will be readily apparent even just during hover. Bah...I need to break down and buy a

gyro soon or I'm going to pull my hair out!

Cheers,
-->Justin

Al P · Nov 13, 2009, 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jackclarke

Seems like most us 500 trainees have flown away - found a new hobby - crashed and burned - left the wreckage behind - given up - gone into hibernation. This part of the world, the weather man pushing the rain-cold-wind buttons and probably falling asleep on them. How about some updates? How everyone doing? Anybody know of a 747 hangar not being used? The withdrawal symptoms starting to get bad. Am I the only one left in this thread who still trying to learn non-3D flying - or at least trying to learn non-3D flying?

Hey Jack,

Swamped with work, Wx uncooperative too. Did manage to fly my Logo 10 once today. First time in weeks. The 500 hasn't been flown in 3 weeks or more. It flies well but the noise and headspeed are still intimidating and so the cyclic is more sensitive than I'm used to.

Have you considered one of the smaller indoor helicopters ? Last October I got a Hirobo Quark and it has been great with indoors orientation practice. I honestly think I've progressed more last Winter than I have in the last three years of flying outdoors once or twice a month. I also got a Walkera 4#3B which is also a lot of fun and good practice. The new Blade MSR is getting good reviews as an indoor helicopter.

An indoors heli can really satisfy the craving to fly when it's nasty outdoors or dark. It's not as great as a larger heli outdoors, but it helps.

RotorJockey · Nov 13, 2009, 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jmpwnd

Sorry to hear about the crash, Fred and glad to hear you got her together, Dave! I told you that you'd beat me...I'm still here too, but not with a flyable 500 yet. I've built up most of the bird except I'm driving myself freakin' crazy over what gyro to get...

I don't want to get the DS760 or GY520 because their software is not compatible with Mac, which is all I use. So now, I'm down to the good old Align GP750+DS520 or JR770/370+DS3500. I'm leaning towards the JR again, except that most things I've read say that it's tricky to set up compared to the 750. I wonder how much I'd notice the difference between the 750 and 770 or 370. Most say I will NEVER notice...others say it will be readily apparent even just during hover. Bah...I need to break down and buy a

gyro soon or I'm going to pull my hair out!

Cheers,
-->Justin

Justin,

I've got 2 770's. I liked my first one so much I bought another one with my second 500. I've heard all that hooey about how tricky they are to set up. I'm here to tell you it's just not true.

They're not any trickier to set up thay ANY other gyro.

And about their hold, I fly fast reverse with mine and even do tail-slide loops without the tail blowing out. It doesn't get much better than that, especially for the price.

Fred

hancockdw · Nov 13, 2009, 11:31 PM

Justin,

Sounds like you are prone to the same malady I carry -- the paralysis of analysis. In the case of gyros for the 500 I fell back on the fact that I didn't have much money, so a used GY401 was pretty much the only choice. I suspect any of the ones you've mentioned will at least do OK, and probably will be better than that. You're leaning toward JR already, and Fred likes 'em. Go for it!

Dave

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Nov 07, 2009, 09:36 PM	#346
agran1021 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Virginia Posts: 173	A gentle suggestion: you might buy a hex driver to tighten those nuts. Pliers are okay -- until you've rounded the nut.

Nov 08, 2009, 10:58 PM	#349
hancockdw Wing Count: 3 fixed, 3 rotary Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Dallas, TX Posts: 1,707	There's a cheap set of tools at Harbor Freight that has 3 small nut drivers in it. Sitting here I can't remember which common size nut one of them fits. Hmmm, I think there's a 4mm and a 5mm driver; 4mm fits a M2 nut, doesn't it? Don't remember the 3rd size -- it's either 3mm or 6mm. I actually spent some time on my build this weekend. Motor and electronics are in! Next step will be the smoke test (first power-up). Then set the ESC and the gyro up. At my rate, I might maiden it this year! Dave

Nov 12, 2009, 01:25 AM	#352
RotorJockey Registered User Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 478	Crashed one of my 500's again the other day! Inverted piro orientation exercise. Was doing just fine til I thought about it, then WHAM! LOL! Oh well, first crash in a couple of months. Think I'll start tearing it down and working on a parts list tomorrow. Fred

Nov 12, 2009, 06:31 AM	#353
jackclarke Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Aachen Germany Posts: 222	Seems like most us 500 trainees have flown away - found a new hobby - crashed and burned - left the wreckage behind - given up - gone into hibernation. This part of the world, the weather man pushing the rain-cold-wind buttons and probably falling asleep on them. How about some updates? How everyone doing? Anybody know of a 747 hangar not being used? The withdrawal symptoms starting to get bad. Am I the only one left in this thread who still trying to learn non-3D flying - or at least trying to learn non-3D flying?

Nov 12, 2009, 08:42 AM	#354
Evan D Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 2,158	We're here... Same weather problem. Huricane Ida's remnants have been here yesterday and today. Looks nice for the weekend though. I have my 500ESP Flying very nice. I. move the collective servo's balls out, increased my AFRs and put it on high timing. It really flys nice now.

Nov 12, 2009, 09:00 AM	#355
hancockdw Wing Count: 3 fixed, 3 rotary Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Dallas, TX Posts: 1,707	There's been a number of good flying days here in the Dallas area of late, but it seems my schedule prevents me from taking advantage of 'em most of the time. I'm not a fan of Daylight Saving Time, but it was nice to have time after work to go to the renegade field near my home once in a while. Now it's almost sunset if I can get over there, and the mosquitos are already active. I did get out yesterday to the club field. Winds were a bit higher than predicted, but I flew my foamie plane and also hovered my 450. No crashes! Took my 500 to the LHS for their heli guru to bless. He gave it a fairly clean bill of health, then took it out to the parking lot and did an initial test hover. So the bird has maidened, just not with me at the controls. My turn comes soon, I hope! Oh, I wanted to say something about balance. I'm using the Turnigy 3AH batteries, and I have the ESC under the battery tray. I still have to move the battery forward on the tray to get the bird's CG right! If you're using smaller batts, and put the ESC on the side, how do you balance it? Dave

Nov 13, 2009, 07:00 PM	#357
jmpwnd Justin is back after 10 years! Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Redmond, WA Posts: 78	Sorry to hear about the crash, Fred and glad to hear you got her together, Dave! I told you that you'd beat me...I'm still here too, but not with a flyable 500 yet. I've built up most of the bird except I'm driving myself freakin' crazy over what gyro to get... I don't want to get the DS760 or GY520 because their software is not compatible with Mac, which is all I use. So now, I'm down to the good old Align GP750+DS520 or JR770/370+DS3500. I'm leaning towards the JR again, except that most things I've read say that it's tricky to set up compared to the 750. I wonder how much I'd notice the difference between the 750 and 770 or 370. Most say I will NEVER notice...others say it will be readily apparent even just during hover. Bah...I need to break down and buy a gyro soon or I'm going to pull my hair out! Cheers, -->Justin

Nov 13, 2009, 11:31 PM	#360
hancockdw Wing Count: 3 fixed, 3 rotary Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Dallas, TX Posts: 1,707	Justin, Sounds like you are prone to the same malady I carry -- the paralysis of analysis. In the case of gyros for the 500 I fell back on the fact that I didn't have much money, so a used GY401 was pretty much the only choice. I suspect any of the ones you've mentioned will at least do OK, and probably will be better than that. You're leaning toward JR already, and Fred likes 'em. Go for it! Dave