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Old Apr 12, 2014, 06:33 AM
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Update your chargers to 5.91, and download the newest ECDS program. Need the newest on both. Or you need the ECDS software that goes with your current FW. (Easier to just get the most recent updates.

If you can't update the FW you are likely missing the sil labs driver.
What is the link for the silver labs driver and not plugged into power... On laptop...
After this works I'm going to setup a sweet box with it all in it...
Thx.
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Old Apr 13, 2014, 12:44 AM
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What is the link for the silver labs driver and not plugged into power... On laptop...
After this works I'm going to setup a sweet box with it all in it...
Thx.
Kurt
Read these before doing anything:
http://media.hyperion.hk/dn/pc/ecds-...reyoustart.htm
http://media.hyperion.hk/dn/pc/ecds-...rechargers.htm

Those links lead to sections of the ECDS software manual found here:
http://media.hyperion.hk/dn/pc/ecds-man/

Be weary of the links to software and firmware in the manual, manual isn't completely up to date, and a lot of links will lead to old stuff.

This page has the link for the USB adapter drivers. Follow the instructions to make it easy.

http://media.hyperion.hk/dn/pc/prgusb-drv.htm

It says to not connect the adapter (separate device for the "series 2" chargers like I have) or the charger (newer models with the adapter built in) to the computer/laptop, what ever you're using for updating until you install the driver. Just disconnecting the charger should get rid of the device in the device manager, but you may have to delete it.

Should be good to go for installing the driver after that.

Here is the link for the software and firmware landing page. This page is current, and the links lead to the most recent software and firmware.

http://media.hyperion.hk/dn/

Although they are out of date, be sure to read all the manuals for FW updates and what not, the info still applies, and it's a good refresher. From that landing page, as far as I can tell, all the software, guides, and charger manuals are the most current available, although not fully up to date.

If your going to connect both chargers to the ECDS, be absolutely sure to read and follow this http://media.hyperion.hk/dn/pc/ecds-...rechargers.htm.

Steve
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Old Apr 13, 2014, 06:09 PM
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Read these before doing anything:
http://media.hyperion.hk/dn/pc/ecds-...reyoustart.htm
http://media.hyperion.hk/dn/pc/ecds-...rechargers.htm

Those links lead to sections of the ECDS software manual found here:
http://media.hyperion.hk/dn/pc/ecds-man/

Be weary of the links to software and firmware in the manual, manual isn't completely up to date, and a lot of links will lead to old stuff.

This page has the link for the USB adapter drivers. Follow the instructions to make it easy.

http://media.hyperion.hk/dn/pc/prgusb-drv.htm

It says to not connect the adapter (separate device for the "series 2" chargers like I have) or the charger (newer models with the adapter built in) to the computer/laptop, what ever you're using for updating until you install the driver. Just disconnecting the charger should get rid of the device in the device manager, but you may have to delete it.

Should be good to go for installing the driver after that.

Here is the link for the software and firmware landing page. This page is current, and the links lead to the most recent software and firmware.

http://media.hyperion.hk/dn/

Although they are out of date, be sure to read all the manuals for FW updates and what not, the info still applies, and it's a good refresher. From that landing page, as far as I can tell, all the software, guides, and charger manuals are the most current available, although not fully up to date.

If your going to connect both chargers to the ECDS, be absolutely sure to read and follow this http://media.hyperion.hk/dn/pc/ecds-...rechargers.htm.

Steve
Thx. Downloaded the driver I'll give it a go in a minute...
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Thx. Downloaded the driver I'll give it a go in a minute...
No problem, let us know how it goes. :thumbup::thumbup:
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Just upgraded from my old faithful Duo2 to 2x730iNET3's running with EOS control (without a powered USB hub).

Was a painfree process, apart from the dud link that points to old firmware which isnt compatible with the latest EOS suite and spits out an error on starting EOS control.

Took a lot of head scratching to figure out what was wrong.

The firmware link here http://media.hyperion.hk/dn/eos/default.htm points to the wrong firmware (5.86) The link here http://media.hyperion.hk/dn/pc/ecds-man/Download.htm also points to old firmware page.

The link here http://media.hyperion.hk/dn/pc/pcsoft.htm points to the correct page http://media.hyperion.hk/dn/eos/591/eosfw591.html
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Old Apr 14, 2014, 07:38 AM
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Hmmm ok well I'm running 5.8.. Not sure on the last number but it seems up to date have yet to try the suite after downloading the drivers... Too busy to do it making this
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I just picked up a eos730i. Could you guys save me some searching? If I want to hook to the pc to update and configure my presets I can use a 3s lipo and be safe? If I want to run off the computer I don't want to burn out the USB. Do I really need a usb isolator (dont want to spend $50 really)? Is there another method to avoid this problem? Thanks for your input!

UPDATE: I just found a diagram and understand the flow and why this happens. Makes more
sense now
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I just picked up a eos730i. Could you guys save me some searching? If I want to hook to the pc to update and configure my presets I can use a 3s lipo and be safe? If I want to run off the computer I don't want to burn out the USB. Do I really need a usb isolator (dont want to spend $50 really)? Is there another method to avoid this problem? Thanks for your input!

UPDATE: I just found a diagram and understand the flow and why this happens. Makes more
sense now
Yeah, if you power of a battery your computer wind share an earth ground with the computer. You don't NEED an isolator. But just know that hooking up in the wrong order once can kill the adapter, or hooking up in the wrong order 100 times might not kill anything. It seems like it is correlated to the setup somehow, or what people have hooked up, etc, etc, it's kind of voodoo.

If you are religious in the process, you shouldn't have a problem. But if you do any kind of electronics work with a USB connection and high voltage on the target side then an isolator is definitely worth the cost. I work with microcontrollers so an isolator is a good idea. If you have data collection it is useful as well. Check out national instruments (LabView software + hardware supplier), they have some good explanations.

Analog Devices has a rocking USB isolator chip out. If you're confident in your soldering someone has put together a kit for around 40 bucks, that will give you all the isolation you'll need for just about anything, and I believe it's full USB 2.

If you're into audio an isolator is great as well, they have awesome USB DAC headphone amps that benefit greatly from isolator by keeping computer noise out of the amp.

If you're interested let me know, I'll give you the link for the kit. I'm also looking for other chips/kits/finished products as well.

On another note, I just broke open my older 720i net, looking to see if the balance power can be increased fairly easily.
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Old Yesterday, 04:39 PM
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I dont use an isolator, never have done. Never blown anything up. Your mileage may vary


There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.
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Right on!
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I dont use an isolator, never have done. Never blown anything up. Your mileage may vary


There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.
EDIT: Forgot to add that your sig is awesome! One of the best lines in the movie, although that doesn't say much because just about every line is awesome. You can't park your car here! Why not? Is this not a reasonable place to park? You're on a f'n sidewalk!

You got it!!! Millage definitely varies wildly. I forgot to add in my last post, if you're only dealing with the charger, I would go Bluetooth. In fact, even if you have a zillion high voltage circuits that could go wrong and fry your computer, I'd get Bluetooth for the charger and a USB isolator for the other stuff.

Bluetooth board is ~10-15 bucks on eBay, and Bluetooth for the computer is 0-15 bucks max, zero if you already have one. The only issue is finding the correct pins on the charger. Power is easy, Tx & Rx depend on if the external adapter was just popped into the case, or if the chip was integrated. Add a switch to power the Bluetooth on and off as you need a hardwire connection for FW, and you can monitor/control the charge from just about anywhere. If you have a "charge pit" for safety, or not if you don't mind burning stuff down , you could control the charger from around the world by Bluetooth ing from your desktop, and then remote desktop into your desktop. Computer or phone/tablet If you find a remote desktop app worth a damn.
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I dont use an isolator, never have done. Never blown anything up. Your mileage may vary


There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.
Oh, I don't use one either unless I'm hooking to a microcontroller project with high voltage. My PS floats the ground so you can hook it up to a circuit with 30 volts. You can jump out to earth ground if needed, but I hardly ever need to do so.
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Defintly an awesome movie (and book), full of awesome dialogue!

Not my sig unfortunatly, I saw Gonzo's bat country signature Glad to see Hunter fans are everywhere.
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I just picked up a eos730i. Could you guys save me some searching? If I want to hook to the pc to update and configure my presets I can use a 3s lipo and be safe? If I want to run off the computer I don't want to burn out the USB. Do I really need a usb isolator (dont want to spend $50 really)? Is there another method to avoid this problem? Thanks for your input!

UPDATE: I just found a diagram and understand the flow and why this happens. Makes more
sense now
where is that diagram?
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Presume he means the ones in the Quick Start Guide

http://media.hyperion.hk/dn/pc/ecds-...reyoustart.htm
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