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Old Mar 08, 2013, 06:04 PM
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I agree!

But those that respond telling us that what we have is rubbish, or other such derogatory low-information comments, is unnecessary.
we only think your healthcare is rubbish for us. Its absolutely perfect for the britttish.
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Old Mar 08, 2013, 06:04 PM
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This thread is unusual, in that it was started by a Brit, madsci!
Oh, it's not unusual at all, in that it was started by a particular Brit, who starts threads with subjects that poke certain groups of LTUP posters.

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There are many earlier threads haranguing non-US Healthcare systems - mainly at the time Obama was trying to address some of your problems, if I remember!
Most of the time, the US was compared to various European healthcare systems, often while ignoring the inherent and demonstrated problems in those systems.

In addition, most on "my" side, that is, the side that considers Federal control of healthcare with much trepidation, admit the problems in US healthcare. We aren't blind, you know, we just know that adding 40 million "uninsured" to the US system will not make things better for any demographic in the US. The poorest will still be denied services, the very rich will not pay into the system, the basic American will receive poorer and poorer quality healthcare as the years go by, with no recourse but to continue on. He won't be able to switch providers, because Obama's ultimate goal is a single payer system like the UK's.

You already see the effects. Many doctors are now refusing to add any Medicare patients to their patient lists. That is the future of US healthcare, where the rich pay retainers to doctors, and receive the only decent healthcare in the country, and everyone else gets HMO Minus grade healthcare. No choice, no options, no second opinion, no way around the inevitable rationing.
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Old Mar 08, 2013, 06:18 PM
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, because Obama's ultimate goal is a single payer system like the UK's.
Someone should tell him to look at the German system. Or the French.
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Old Mar 08, 2013, 06:25 PM
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we only think your healthcare is rubbish for us. Its absolutely perfect for the britttish.
It works for me. You would have to be a very rich American to get the level of service I enjoy from my family Doctor.
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Old Mar 08, 2013, 06:30 PM
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It works for me. You would have to be a very rich American to get the level of service I enjoy from my family Doctor.
I don't know what kind of care you get, but it would be very hard to beat what we get with our family Dr. And, I'm not rich by any account. If I want to see my Dr. I can usually see him the same day. And, I usually arrive a bit early for my appointment, and many times I'm in my car on the way home at the time my appointment was scheduled for.
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Old Mar 08, 2013, 06:45 PM
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Tuesday is my five year up periscope. Dr`s appt was mid Jan. for the referal to the specialist. Saw the specialist Feb 20th, and the procedure was scheduled for March 12th.

By and large I`d say those wait times are pretty reasonable for an elective procedure under a universal care system. And just to clarify, if it was emergent, I`d be bumped to the front of the line.
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Old Mar 08, 2013, 06:49 PM
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It works for me. You would have to be a very rich American to get the level of service I enjoy from my family Doctor.
Excellent. I wont tell you that you need to change to my system and id appreciate the same in return. Now if we could just get ET off our backs.
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Old Mar 08, 2013, 07:09 PM
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Excellent. I wont tell you that you need to change to my system and id appreciate the same in return. Now if we could just get ET off our backs.
You know that will never happen. We need him to keep on telling us how bad that the U.S. is.
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Old Mar 08, 2013, 07:10 PM
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look at hitec servos, number one because they are cheap. I dont trust em.
off topic, but your loss. 5065,5085,5245,7245 all great servos.
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Old Mar 08, 2013, 07:21 PM
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The US healthcare system is worse than some 3rd world countries in categories...

But hey, those countries put a man on the moon before I was born so that's to be expected

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Old Mar 08, 2013, 07:22 PM
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I keep telling you that my step son can't afford it BUT HE STILL GETS IT. Why can't you understand that?
A near majority doesn't

There's facts to back that statement up

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Old Mar 08, 2013, 07:23 PM
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Why did liberals put obama care down our throats when its proven that the cheapest plan will be $20k per year well out of the reach of most Americans?
Because the right didn't want single payer!!!

Look, liberal ideas are better than the right except in the area of killing people...in that area the right reigns supreme.

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Old Mar 08, 2013, 07:27 PM
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It works for me. You would have to be a very rich American to get the level of service I enjoy from my family Doctor.
Murdock (a horrid, horrible human being) has convinced the majority of the right in America via FAUX News that they ARE rich.

Even though red states in America give back less in federal dollars than they take in....

Even though a vast majority of people who vote for the right are about as broke as possible

Murdochs FAUX News tells the right the moon is made of cheese and they go and get their crackers!!
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Old Mar 08, 2013, 07:32 PM
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Murdock (a horrid, horrible human being) has convinced the majority of the right in America via FAUX News that they ARE rich.

Even though red states in America give back less in federal dollars than they take in....

Even though a vast majority of people who vote for the right are about as broke as possible

Murdochs FAUX News tells the right the moon is made of cheese and they go and get their crackers!!

LOL What has that got to do with the subject on this thread?
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Old Mar 08, 2013, 07:34 PM
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LOL What has that got to do with the subject on this thread?
Keep up, the poster said you can get good healthcare in America if you're rich

Then I mentioned most of the right thinks they're rich cause FAUX News told them they are...

IE, the rights opposition to an health care changes

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