New Product Blade MSR Confirmed. PICs Below + video and video review

[tic]

Good suggestion on the flybar.. I did notice the new one was a little tight and probably should have run some emery cloth on the ID to smooth it out.. I did put a dab of lube there so I'm hoping it will wear itself in but this could very well be the problem. After struggling to put the thing all back together, I don't look forward to taking it apart again. I think I'll run a few dozen flights on it and see if it loosens up.. The new tail rotor does indeed make the angry bee sound the original USED to make. I didn't throw the old one out so I'll try and bend some more pitch into it and try it again sometime. I also notice now that the heli doesn't want to hold heading quite as nice as it used to. If I add just a touch of left rudder it continues left until I correct right, then it keeps going right. Trim is spot on. Very touchy now, maybe because of increased tail rotor authority. Changing one little thing on these little things makes a HUGE difference in how they fly.

[nwjhawk]

Originally Posted by livonia bob

OK time to use my proven sure fire fix for problem mSR's Please try this one last thing for me... Go here and put this in your cart and see what price you get..

http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=10425&Product_Name=Blade _mSR_BNF_w/_DSM2_Tech._(USA_WAREHOUSE)

Thanks for the link. Strange, it was showing me $111.79 + S&H initially, but the order system kept giving me a time-out error. After trying a few times, it showed up in my cart as $99.79 + $16.79 S&H and I was finally able to place the order from a different computer. Woo hoo!

[RCBABBEL]

Originally Posted by tic

Good suggestion on the flybar.. I did notice the new one was a little tight and probably should have run some emery cloth on the ID to smooth it out.. I did put a dab of lube there so I'm hoping it will wear itself in but this could very well be the problem. After struggling to put the thing all back together, I don't look forward to taking it apart again. I think I'll run a few dozen flights on it and see if it loosens up.. The new tail rotor does indeed make the angry bee sound the original USED to make. I didn't throw the old one out so I'll try and bend some more pitch into it and try it again sometime. I also notice now that the heli doesn't want to hold heading quite as nice as it used to. If I add just a touch of left rudder it continues left until I correct right, then it keeps going right. Trim is spot on. Very touchy now, maybe because of increased tail rotor authority. Changing one little thing on these little things makes a HUGE difference in how they fly.

Man with the tic,


So true. Takes so little to have a big effect.

Ever tried this simple tape mod. About three wraps around the shafts of the lower links that ride in the Anti-Rotation Collar.
Really smoothed out my mSR to get rid of that extra slop.
Ended all the wandering in hover.

rc

[Razors edge 29]

I am Loven the look of the microheli alum frame, head collar and anti rotation collar. The grips I don't want and the swash I am not sold on either. When is the frame supposed to be released? Does anyone know?

Ps, I have been doing some detailing and will have pics up soon hopefully

[tic]

I'll try that tape mod.. thanks

[bekylane]

I took appart my mSR for a tune up and noticed that the ball bearings are asymetrical (on one side they are covered and on the other the balls are exposed).

In what direction should they be?

Thanks

[spudandretti]

Originally Posted by Razors edge 29

I am Loven the look of the microheli alum frame, head collar and anti rotation collar. The grips I don't want and the swash I am not sold on either. When is the frame supposed to be released? Does anyone know?

Ps, I have been doing some detailing and will have pics up soon hopefully

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...postcount=7211 . Good luck, thats what there hoping people say. Don't have one, but can't think it will help out in any way but make it a little shinier. http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...postcount=7204 Bud

[Razors edge 29]

I have read bad things about the grips and swash, bit good about retaining collar and head. Those parts I would prob get; the jury is still out on the frame though




QUOTE=spudandretti;13659249]http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...postcount=7211 . Good luck, thats what there hoping people say. Don't have one, but can't think it will help out in any way but make it a little shinier. http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...postcount=7204 Bud[/quote]

[Flyextreme]

Ok, I have an MSR on the way. I have been reading through some of this thread for awhile and have seen "TBE"...what is TBE?

And some of these upgrades cost almost as much as my bigger birds....Wow!

Can't wait to get this little gem.

Bill

[Piper J3]

Originally Posted by tic

well, I crashed into a wall at high speed and thought I could save it so power was on. Did I do the blade trimming mod? nope... So you guessed it, busted blade grip.. Armed with a bunch of spare parts I ordered weeks ago, I replaced both blade grips,feathering shaft, o-rings and brass washers plus installed the spare flybar. I carefully reassembled everything EXACTLY the way it came apart.. Now I have TBE... I took everything back apart and inspected, found no issues , reassembled and again TBE but not quite as bad.. I know I didn't bend anything bad in the crash because I flew it before replacing all the parts after a quick blade grip repair, no brass washers etc... It flew well... I guess I shouldn't have messed with it. Chasing TBE issues sure is frustrating!

Fix for TBE

1) Slightly snug blade grips with slight oil on blade pivots
2) New linkage arms between flybar and rotor blades
3) Light lubrication on feathering shaft o-rings and linkage arms

[LaserSVT]

Originally Posted by Piper J3

Fix for TBE

1) Slightly snug blade grips with slight oil on blade pivots
2) New linkage arms between flybar and rotor blades
3) Light lubrication on feathering shaft o-rings and linkage arms

The man speaks the troof.
I was hunting the TBE issue for a week and tried his idea. After 30 flights it still hovers perfectly still every time. I just timed 4:33 with ZERO controller input. Brought it to 4' and just let it sit there. I did walk past it once to get a wind push more to the middle of the room... so that may have been cheating. LOL!

[vryder]

Originally Posted by Flyextreme

Ok, I have an MSR on the way. I have been reading through some of this thread for awhile and have seen "TBE"...what is TBE?

And some of these upgrades cost almost as much as my bigger birds....Wow!

Can't wait to get this little gem.

Bill

Toilet bowl effect. Instead of hovering in one place it kinda goes around & around.

[flyonlittlewing]

Okay, so I just got the msr today.

first off, this is my first "real" heli. I have been flying planes for quite a long time now but never wanted to fly a heli after seeing some epic crashes at the field and hearing how much it cost to fix most of them. I didnt really want to partake in it after hearing that.

On a whim I was in walgreens and found this cheap little coaxial heli that surprisingly wasnt too hard to control but it sparked something so I looked around on this forum since I have had so much help in other places on here for planes. I ended up looking through 95% of this thread and decided on this heli to start on.

I wanted to thank you guys for the mass of information I have gotten from here. Out of the box I had some pretty bad TBE and I wouldnt have known what to do about it without this thread, I know its probably a simple thing for you guys to just know to tighten the blades down a bit but I wouldnt have.

anyways, Im sure this little guy is going to get some quality time in the air.

Thanks all of you!

[Piper J3]

Originally Posted by LaserSVT

The man speaks the troof.
I was hunting the TBE issue for a week and tried his idea. After 30 flights it still hovers perfectly still every time. I just timed 4:33 with ZERO controller input. Brought it to 4' and just let it sit there. I did walk past it once to get a wind push more to the middle of the room... so that may have been cheating. LOL!

You are a good student grasshopper...

[Piper J3]

Originally Posted by flyonlittlewing

Okay, so I just got the msr today.

first off, this is my first "real" heli. I have been flying planes for quite a long time now but never wanted to fly a heli after seeing some epic crashes at the field and hearing how much it cost to fix most of them. I didnt really want to partake in it after hearing that.

On a whim I was in walgreens and found this cheap little coaxial heli that surprisingly wasnt too hard to control but it sparked something so I looked around on this forum since I have had so much help in other places on here for planes. I ended up looking through 95% of this thread and decided on this heli to start on.

I wanted to thank you guys for the mass of information I have gotten from here. Out of the box I had some pretty bad TBE and I wouldnt have known what to do about it without this thread, I know its probably a simple thing for you guys to just know to tighten the blades down a bit but I wouldnt have.

anyways, Im sure this little guy is going to get some quality time in the air.

Thanks all of you!

Welcome to the mSR fraternity.