MSH Protos Owners Thread - Page 412

HighFreq · Nov 19, 2009, 06:18 PM

New poli canopy should be out sometime in January, please note that are not same material as the old plastic canopies, these new ones are much much stronger.

Corrado

kgfly · Nov 19, 2009, 06:39 PM

Great, thanks for the update. Are they the same physical shape, not any smaller/narrower/tighter ?

robl45 · Nov 19, 2009, 10:31 PM

I see one place is selling the protos with the flybarless head, but it seems they are just adding that into the package.

any chance of a protos that just comes with the flybarless head instead of flybar?

robl45 · Nov 20, 2009, 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SMITHB

These here

aren't those pretty slow?

moshen · Nov 20, 2009, 02:40 PM

I used the MSH vbar file as a base. I changed the cyclic gain from 78 to 100. My collective number is 88 from 100 (cyclic servo balls 16.5mm out). And dialed the agility down. My tail gain is at 110 with MKS 8910 servos and ball 10mm out on the arm.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff_edge540

I am using the Mini-V on the plastic frame Protos.
Here are a few notes..
*Grab the vbar file from msheli.com
*Channels 2&3 will be reversed in the software (piro optimization might work better reversed because of this)
*You might need to strap your mini-v down tight to prevent tail-wag
*Be careful of binding at full negative collective and full left/right aileron as the servo arm will hit the frame

Also, I highly recommend the MSH FBL head conversion kit.

jayessi · Nov 21, 2009, 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ayash

Can you point where exactly? I couldn't find it. Saw just discussions explaining that canopy has to be trimmed.

Also - would a 3 on 4 instead of 2 on 5 work?

Has anyone tried this ? If this fits, maybe, better for CG using 7S A123....

Thanks.

mahbouni · Nov 22, 2009, 05:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by robl45

I see one place is selling the protos with the flybarless head, but it seems they are just adding that into the package.

any chance of a protos that just comes with the flybarless head instead of flybar?

I spy with my little eye something beginning with F

http://www.fast-lad.co.uk/store/heli...e3b6927791d0ba

http://www.fast-lad.co.uk/store/heli...ss-p-8601.html

robl45 · Nov 22, 2009, 10:08 AM

so thats just the flybarless head? they are still talking about the paddles in the description, wonder if that makes it to the usa.

mahbouni · Nov 22, 2009, 05:16 PM

I think the description has been copied and pasted from the flybar version, since MSH haven't yet posted specs on their own website. Nevertheless, I think they are the new kits with flybarless heads. Maybe Corrado can confirm this. If so then I would expect only a matter of days before ReadyHeli and the other US dealers get them.

HighFreq · Nov 23, 2009, 02:33 AM

No flybarless kits from MSH at the moment.

Corrado

Wespen · Nov 23, 2009, 03:28 AM

I think its standard Protos bundled with their custom FBL kit.
Pics are small but looks like that RJX conversion. You can see the swash driver and lower head block.

mahbouni · Nov 23, 2009, 05:42 AM

I have no expeirence with RJX but I would be very disappointed if I bought that kit thinking it will come with genuine MSH parts. Unofficially bundling the MSH FBL upgrade is somewhat cheaky and they should state that in the description but if it's bundled with an RJX conversion then it would be absolutely wrong for them to advertise it as anything otherwise. I hope nobody has bought this with disappointment on my info. I am very sorry if you have done so.

povern · Nov 23, 2009, 06:41 AM

Yep, that is the RJX head. You can tell by the way the swash driver arms are at a funny angle.

Here are some close up pics of the head on a Protos:
http://www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?t=167314

Nov 23, 2009, 05:42 AM	#6177
mahbouni Heli Hooligan Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: London Posts: 5,448	I have no expeirence with RJX but I would be very disappointed if I bought that kit thinking it will come with genuine MSH parts. Unofficially bundling the MSH FBL upgrade is somewhat cheaky and they should state that in the description but if it's bundled with an RJX conversion then it would be absolutely wrong for them to advertise it as anything otherwise. I hope nobody has bought this with disappointment on my info. I am very sorry if you have done so. Last edited by mahbouni; Nov 23, 2009 at 05:52 AM.

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Nov 19, 2009, 06:18 PM	#6166
HighFreq Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Milan Linate, Italy Posts: 894	New poli canopy should be out sometime in January, please note that are not same material as the old plastic canopies, these new ones are much much stronger. Corrado

Nov 19, 2009, 06:39 PM	#6167
kgfly Registered User Join Date: May 2006 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 4,097	Great, thanks for the update. Are they the same physical shape, not any smaller/narrower/tighter ?

Nov 19, 2009, 10:31 PM	#6168
robl45 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Deerfield Beach, FL Posts: 1,635	I see one place is selling the protos with the flybarless head, but it seems they are just adding that into the package. any chance of a protos that just comes with the flybarless head instead of flybar?

Nov 22, 2009, 10:08 AM	#6173
robl45 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Deerfield Beach, FL Posts: 1,635	so thats just the flybarless head? they are still talking about the paddles in the description, wonder if that makes it to the usa.

Nov 22, 2009, 05:16 PM	#6174
mahbouni Heli Hooligan Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: London Posts: 5,448	I think the description has been copied and pasted from the flybar version, since MSH haven't yet posted specs on their own website. Nevertheless, I think they are the new kits with flybarless heads. Maybe Corrado can confirm this. If so then I would expect only a matter of days before ReadyHeli and the other US dealers get them.

Nov 23, 2009, 02:33 AM	#6175
HighFreq Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Milan Linate, Italy Posts: 894	No flybarless kits from MSH at the moment. Corrado

Nov 23, 2009, 03:28 AM	#6176
Wespen Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Croatia, Europe Posts: 285	I think its standard Protos bundled with their custom FBL kit. Pics are small but looks like that RJX conversion. You can see the swash driver and lower head block.

Nov 23, 2009, 06:41 AM	#6178
povern Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 20	Yep, that is the RJX head. You can tell by the way the swash driver arms are at a funny angle. Here are some close up pics of the head on a Protos: http://www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?t=167314