The great Aussie BBQ and Beers thread - Page 380

bUd~FokkerU2 · Nov 06, 2009, 06:21 PM

That's one sexy looking rig EDF!
Id nearly wanna hump dat thing!

I came across this Hondajet recently, its another sexy beast in my books.

EDFjet · Nov 06, 2009, 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BulletMaster

ah... so you got one then EDFjet?

Sure did man. Model Engines had a few sitting around their warehouse

You should build yours man, the quality is pretty good. Very happy with the kit overall.

Quote:

Originally Posted by bUd~FokkerU2

That's one sexy looking rig EDF!
Id nearly wanna hump dat thing!

Yea i couldn't help myself

clintski · Nov 07, 2009, 06:31 AM

Well I've been keeping busy this weekend making a cockpit for my Extra.

I bought one of those HC pilots and was inspired to make a photo realistic cockpit like I've seen by a dude who makes them in the US.. I 'borrowed'

an image he uses as the pilot body, then using 2 other images of real EXTRA cockpits from the web, I merged them together to make my own design.

It has taken forever! (company time

) and I reckon I've wasted a whole tree of paper doing it, but the end result is pretty good.
After finally settling on a floorplan, I laminated it, cut the pilot to size, and put some paint to balsa to finish it off..
But just now I had an idea - Using straws painted white I'm thinking of making a rollcage/airframe to make it POP just a little bit more.. What you think?

bleary · Nov 07, 2009, 09:44 AM

Looks good Clintski.
Maybe it is just me,but that middle pic looks a tad "wrong" to me.
Bleary.

clintski · Nov 07, 2009, 10:05 AM

Hahahaha, thanks Bleary you have poisoned my mind and I can never look at it in the same way again !

evo62 · Nov 07, 2009, 03:55 PM

Well,

It 'was' a great work of art, but now you've said that Bleary, it has lost some of the appeal.

I've got a mate from Emerald down for the weekend and we took everything that is flyable down to the soccer pitch yesterday morning for some flying. Crappy wind came up early so things were a bit of a struggle. He flies Nitro so didn't think it would be a problem. I flew the Addiction first and he just couldn't believe it, such grunt and how light it was. When I put up the Extra SHP he was sold on electrics and kept saying wait until the boys back home see this stuff. As a laugh I gave him the controls to the REEEPP on full rates, he practically pooped his pants! I finally settled on tossing the PZ Radian up for him - seemed more sedate and he ended up having some good flights.

Still couldn't get the Extra MX to rangecheck more then 3 or 4 meters. We tried unplugging every servo but it still jittered. We even removed the Rx from the plane and held the aerial straight up without any improvement. My mate's an electrical engineer so he's gunna have a look at the ESC for me today. Given the plane has suffered from this problem ever since I got it I hope PA will help out if I need a new ESC.

Clovus

maiden-crash · Nov 07, 2009, 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bleary

Looks good Clintski.
Maybe it is just me,but that middle pic looks a tad "wrong" to me.
Bleary.

Hahahaha Im still laughing as I type this post
I thought it looked great too until I saw Blearys following post

Boxhead · Nov 07, 2009, 07:43 PM

B

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clintski · Nov 07, 2009, 08:29 PM

I'm gunna have to get the crayolas out and change the colour of his knob

evo62 · Nov 07, 2009, 11:03 PM

Bleary,

How's the MX? Maidened yet? Are you on 36meg or 2.4gHz? It seems I am the only one with the glitching problem and the only one on 36meg.

Clovus

bleary · Nov 07, 2009, 11:28 PM

Na,too hungover today...red wine doesn't agree with me too well these days.

I have also being having some radio problems which I need to get to the bottom of before flying the MX.I had a total loss of control of my EZGlider pro whilst sloping on Friday and again yesterday.I am using a DX7 and a 6100 which I changed to a spare 6100 after the first prang where it went in hard at full noise on a road

I thought it may have been the Rx but I suspect the BEC on the ESC (Turnigy 40 amp Guard with switchbec)I bent the shaft on a nice hacker as well as busting up the EZ pretty good

.I think I may be getting brownouts so I need to check the BEC output and maybe even wire in a separate Bec,I got a spare somewhere.
As a general rule the 6100 Rx is a bit iffy I reckon,they seem very inclined to drop out with a poor power supply.I just need to isolate the problem before risking the MX(MX has a 6200 which has been rock solid)
The only Spektrum issues I have had have been with the 6100 and brownouts I think.I am suspecting the ESC and in your case,so would I.Do you have another ESC you can swap into it to see if it effects the range?It almost sounds like your ESC is getting swamped by RF noise or something.
Bleary.

grizzlymatt · Nov 07, 2009, 11:48 PM

Bleary
You didn't miss much today mate.
Cricketers where on the main oval so headed to the school oval from racing.
Torn the landing gear off my 3DHS 40" Edge so need to fix that.
Wind was also blowing by 8ish so another weekend gone and not alot of flying.
Was starting to like the little Edge before the incident.

bleary · Nov 08, 2009, 01:25 AM

Hmnn thats no good re the landing gear,rough landing was it?

Well I am a bit perplexed re losing signal on my 2 6100's.I tried to replicate the fault on the bench and couldn't.Moving all 4 servos flat out for a few minutes,even pushing against them.I had the wattmeter in series and I didn't even get to 1 amp draw.The ESC didn't get warm and the output from the ESC seemed to be reasonably steady at @5.2V.
Saying all that I am thinking that it is probably the ESC,given that it happened to both 6100's,I just cannot replicate it on the bench.I think I am going to have to use an external BEC at the bare minimum for safety's sake,and maybe even go with a 6200 Rx =$$$ sadly.I was lucky that the plane didn't hit anyone or a car or even go in the drink(was flying at the beach).
Anyone got any ideas for what to test?
Bloody annoying really.
Bleary.

pldaniels · Nov 08, 2009, 01:59 AM

bleary,

Ground testing with all servos working at once isn't really a good test alas, you need to put the servos under some sort of load, perhaps peg a few ~50g weights onto the tail surfaces and try again?

Paul.

bleary · Nov 08, 2009, 03:10 AM

Yeah I did that Paul,the servos are not drawing enough to cause a problem as far as I can see and nothing appears to be getting hot.However there is still an issue that is either power supply to the Rx causing a reboot or the Rx just losing contact for some reason.There may be some shielding going on with all the electrics jammed in together which hopefully a 6200 should sort out with it's twin Rx's.
Bleary.

Nov 06, 2009, 06:21 PM	#5686
bUd~FokkerU2 Plane Crasher and fixeruperer Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 692	That's one sexy looking rig EDF! Id nearly wanna hump dat thing! I came across this Hondajet recently, its another sexy beast in my books. Attached Thumbnails Hondajet 116.1 KB · Views: 3

Nov 07, 2009, 06:31 AM	#5688
clintski Registered Abuser Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Purf, AUSTRALIA Posts: 913	Well I've been keeping busy this weekend making a cockpit for my Extra. I bought one of those HC pilots and was inspired to make a photo realistic cockpit like I've seen by a dude who makes them in the US.. I 'borrowed' an image he uses as the pilot body, then using 2 other images of real EXTRA cockpits from the web, I merged them together to make my own design. It has taken forever! (company time ) and I reckon I've wasted a whole tree of paper doing it, but the end result is pretty good. After finally settling on a floorplan, I laminated it, cut the pilot to size, and put some paint to balsa to finish it off.. But just now I had an idea - Using straws painted white I'm thinking of making a rollcage/airframe to make it POP just a little bit more.. What you think? Attached Thumbnails Pilot is off centre because he's not glued down yet 51.9 KB · Views: 25 Top View 77.5 KB · Views: 47 Straws for Airframe Depth???? 54.9 KB · Views: 22 Last edited by clintski; Nov 07, 2009 at 06:43 AM.

Nov 07, 2009, 07:43 PM	#5693
Boxhead Look outside the Square Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Gosford, Australia Posts: 1,733	Bx

Nov 07, 2009, 11:28 PM	#5696
bleary That looks close enough Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Perth WA Posts: 570	Na,too hungover today...red wine doesn't agree with me too well these days. I have also being having some radio problems which I need to get to the bottom of before flying the MX.I had a total loss of control of my EZGlider pro whilst sloping on Friday and again yesterday.I am using a DX7 and a 6100 which I changed to a spare 6100 after the first prang where it went in hard at full noise on a roadI thought it may have been the Rx but I suspect the BEC on the ESC (Turnigy 40 amp Guard with switchbec)I bent the shaft on a nice hacker as well as busting up the EZ pretty good.I think I may be getting brownouts so I need to check the BEC output and maybe even wire in a separate Bec,I got a spare somewhere. As a general rule the 6100 Rx is a bit iffy I reckon,they seem very inclined to drop out with a poor power supply.I just need to isolate the problem before risking the MX(MX has a 6200 which has been rock solid) The only Spektrum issues I have had have been with the 6100 and brownouts I think.I am suspecting the ESC and in your case,so would I.Do you have another ESC you can swap into it to see if it effects the range?It almost sounds like your ESC is getting swamped by RF noise or something. Bleary.

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Nov 07, 2009, 09:44 AM	#5689
bleary That looks close enough Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Perth WA Posts: 570	Looks good Clintski. Maybe it is just me,but that middle pic looks a tad "wrong" to me. Bleary.

Nov 07, 2009, 10:05 AM	#5690
clintski Registered Abuser Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Purf, AUSTRALIA Posts: 913	Hahahaha, thanks Bleary you have poisoned my mind and I can never look at it in the same way again !

Nov 07, 2009, 03:55 PM	#5691
evo62 Occasional Contributor Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Gold Coast, Australia Posts: 1,532	Well, It 'was' a great work of art, but now you've said that Bleary, it has lost some of the appeal. I've got a mate from Emerald down for the weekend and we took everything that is flyable down to the soccer pitch yesterday morning for some flying. Crappy wind came up early so things were a bit of a struggle. He flies Nitro so didn't think it would be a problem. I flew the Addiction first and he just couldn't believe it, such grunt and how light it was. When I put up the Extra SHP he was sold on electrics and kept saying wait until the boys back home see this stuff. As a laugh I gave him the controls to the REEEPP on full rates, he practically pooped his pants! I finally settled on tossing the PZ Radian up for him - seemed more sedate and he ended up having some good flights. Still couldn't get the Extra MX to rangecheck more then 3 or 4 meters. We tried unplugging every servo but it still jittered. We even removed the Rx from the plane and held the aerial straight up without any improvement. My mate's an electrical engineer so he's gunna have a look at the ESC for me today. Given the plane has suffered from this problem ever since I got it I hope PA will help out if I need a new ESC. Clovus

Nov 07, 2009, 08:29 PM	#5694
clintski Registered Abuser Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Purf, AUSTRALIA Posts: 913	I'm gunna have to get the crayolas out and change the colour of his knob

Nov 07, 2009, 11:03 PM	#5695
evo62 Occasional Contributor Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Gold Coast, Australia Posts: 1,532	Bleary, How's the MX? Maidened yet? Are you on 36meg or 2.4gHz? It seems I am the only one with the glitching problem and the only one on 36meg. Clovus

Nov 07, 2009, 11:48 PM	#5697
grizzlymatt 3DHS Addict DownUnder Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 340	Bleary You didn't miss much today mate. Cricketers where on the main oval so headed to the school oval from racing. Torn the landing gear off my 3DHS 40" Edge so need to fix that. Wind was also blowing by 8ish so another weekend gone and not alot of flying. Was starting to like the little Edge before the incident.

Nov 08, 2009, 01:25 AM	#5698
bleary That looks close enough Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Perth WA Posts: 570	Hmnn thats no good re the landing gear,rough landing was it? Well I am a bit perplexed re losing signal on my 2 6100's.I tried to replicate the fault on the bench and couldn't.Moving all 4 servos flat out for a few minutes,even pushing against them.I had the wattmeter in series and I didn't even get to 1 amp draw.The ESC didn't get warm and the output from the ESC seemed to be reasonably steady at @5.2V. Saying all that I am thinking that it is probably the ESC,given that it happened to both 6100's,I just cannot replicate it on the bench.I think I am going to have to use an external BEC at the bare minimum for safety's sake,and maybe even go with a 6200 Rx =$$$ sadly.I was lucky that the plane didn't hit anyone or a car or even go in the drink(was flying at the beach). Anyone got any ideas for what to test? Bloody annoying really. Bleary.

Nov 08, 2009, 01:59 AM	#5699
pldaniels http://nqrc.com Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Australia, QLD, Charters Towers Posts: 12,852	bleary, Ground testing with all servos working at once isn't really a good test alas, you need to put the servos under some sort of load, perhaps peg a few ~50g weights onto the tail surfaces and try again? Paul.

Nov 08, 2009, 03:10 AM	#5700
bleary That looks close enough Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Perth WA Posts: 570	Yeah I did that Paul,the servos are not drawing enough to cause a problem as far as I can see and nothing appears to be getting hot.However there is still an issue that is either power supply to the Rx causing a reboot or the Rx just losing contact for some reason.There may be some shielding going on with all the electrics jammed in together which hopefully a 6200 should sort out with it's twin Rx's. Bleary.