Zombie Plan - Page 3

ashdec87 · Nov 04, 2009, 11:58 AM

lol. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Zombie_Survival_Guide

Nope he cites 'real' examples...lol The full book is post online somewhere, cant find it now.

I see where you're coming from about the cold killing them.. guess we'd have to wait for an outbreak and see what actually happens

On a side note, I was out with my little brother shooting a pellet gun and he noticed how long it took to reload and pump the gun and said "boy if there was a zombie uprising, this would be a bad gun to have." lol he's 12 btw

Ira NZ · Nov 04, 2009, 12:09 PM

I know, I've read it. Again, all hearsay, no first hand experimentation.

RGinCanada · Nov 04, 2009, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Ira NZ

I don't put a huge amount of faith in the zombie survival guide for specifics.

Good point!

What worries me about cell rupture in a frozen brain is that in theory the cells are dead already, and according to current medical knowledge, shouldn't be able to coordinate the neural messaging required for locomotion, hunting and groaning.

If rupture of the cell membranes doesn't inhibit their operation anymore than a lack of nutrients and oxygen, the zombie-sicle approach may not prove to be effective.

I was thinking about some sort of chemical agent to accelerate decomposition, but without a functioning circulatory and respiratory system, there is no way to ensure it is distributed throughout the reanimated corpse.

Hmmm.....

ashdec87 · Nov 04, 2009, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by RGinCanada

Good point!

I was thinking about some sort of chemical agent to accelerate decomposition, but without a functioning circulatory and respiratory system, there is no way to ensure it is distributed throughout the reanimated corpse.

Hmmm.....

Think flame thower..lol

well I think the cells do need to be intact for the brain/zombie to function. that's why a bullet through the head will kill them. So maybe freezing them is a viable way to kill them also. But then again you have to be sure that the brain is frozen all the way through. If just the body freezes, the brain might be left intact. Also you'd have to be sure the cold killed the virus (or whatever caused the zombification), to prevent spread of it at a later point.

Ok now here's a scenario for you guys to think about. Lets say zombie take over happens. You dont know how long it will last, and you dont have a good way/place to escape so you are left to fortify your home. How would you do that. Also assuming you can carefully make trips with-in a couple miles around your house to gather supplies, at least before things go way bad.

After filling all bathtubs and sinks with water

First thing I would do is board up and seal all windows with either ply or metal sheet. Second I would fortify the doors with many cross bars. easy to remove to get out, but impossible to get in. Then I would divide up tasks in the family. Couple people start working on power generation/supplies and couple work on protection. I would start with a small fence around the back of the house to at least give a base of ops and depending on supplies I'd try to make a sturdy perimeter around the entire property with something like iron fencing or something...

avoidingexpert · Nov 04, 2009, 06:38 PM

I was thinking that once they were frozen you could shoot them in the head at this time, while they are immobile ( in a leisurely type fashion ) Better safe than lunch!

Pudknocker71 · Nov 05, 2009, 07:34 AM

I think the scenario would center more around grave hards and hospitals anyway. Cops, national guard would be able to handle the majority of it.

I was just thinking. What would a Tazer do to them? How about a couple of paint balls to the face. Oh!... a machete! How about a replica sword? Or samori sword? Lopping heads off might be fun.

Pudknocker71 · Nov 05, 2009, 07:37 AM

This might be a good idea.

I really am spending too much time on this thread.

ashdec87 · Nov 05, 2009, 10:30 AM

lol ya this thread is fun

tazer wouldnt do much. They might fall for a moment from the initial shock, but since they dont feel pain it wouldnt keep them down. However, maybe filling a shallow ditch with like an inch of water and passing some voltage through it might be kinda funny.

RGinCanada · Nov 05, 2009, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by ashdec87

Also you'd have to be sure the cold killed the virus

Most viruses are impervious to all but extreme cold (-100 C), but are susceptible to hi temps. The flamethrower works on multiple levels.

I'm not sure whether to abandon my home or not. It has a basement with 10" concrete walls, and we keep two to three weeks of food and water on a rotating basis as part of our emergency preparedness plan.

The downside is that sight lines up and down the street aren't great, and our house is only 15' from each of the neighbors. Long range defense against rambling zombies would be impossible unless we formed a neighborhood anti-undead coalition.

Depending on the size of the outbreak, utilities could be down too. That would present challenges in its own right. I think maybe a generator is a good idea.

ashdec87 · Nov 06, 2009, 11:41 AM

un-dead coalition..lol If you live in a cul-de-sac or something you could make fences around the perimeter of the properties, making a sort of fortress and you'd have a huge 'safe-zone' in the middle.

Pudknocker71 · Nov 06, 2009, 12:34 PM

I wonder if they'll make a vaccine?

Of course the government would have most likely started the whole mess.

RGinCanada · Nov 06, 2009, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Pudknocker71

I wonder if they'll make a vaccine?

Of course the government would have most likely started the whole mess.

Well, the vaccine wouldn't help those already zombified, as the virus has already overcome the immune system, and the normal body mechanisms for fighting disease are no longer functioning.

It would mean that if a zombie got to you, you would be impervious to the virus and drop dead like a respectable corpse. This would help thinning out the undead population by attrition.

ashdec87 · Nov 06, 2009, 04:34 PM

ya by definition a zombie is already dead and then reanimated. So really the only cure there is a 9mm to the head..lol trying to bring them 'back' would be like trying to raise the dead...lol

Pudknocker71 · Nov 06, 2009, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by RGinCanada

Well, the vaccine wouldn't help those already zombified, as the virus has already overcome the immune system, and the normal body mechanisms for fighting disease are no longer functioning.

It would mean that if a zombie got to you, you would be impervious to the virus and drop dead like a respectable corpse. This would help thinning out the undead population by attrition.

No No no ...you guys misunderstand me. In Night of the Living Dead some zombies are alive people that died from inhaling smoke from the furnace (IF I remember the movie correctly). So if there is an airborn...whatever..that turns normal people into zombies..then maybe a vaccine could be made.

It's been 15 years or so since I saw the movie.

Pudknocker71 · Nov 06, 2009, 05:46 PM

OK...Night of the Living Dead is the wrong movie I'm finding out. I was just googling it and it wasn't it.

What's the movie with the Brains thing? Teens in a morge. Zombies attacking. 2 die and become zombies. Police show up and the zombies attack. One of the zombies gets on the police radio and says Send more Cops.

??????

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Nov 04, 2009, 11:58 AM	#31
ashdec87 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Chicago suburbanite Posts: 5,396	lol. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Zombie_Survival_Guide Nope he cites 'real' examples...lol The full book is post online somewhere, cant find it now. I see where you're coming from about the cold killing them.. guess we'd have to wait for an outbreak and see what actually happens On a side note, I was out with my little brother shooting a pellet gun and he noticed how long it took to reload and pump the gun and said "boy if there was a zombie uprising, this would be a bad gun to have." lol he's 12 btw

Nov 04, 2009, 12:09 PM	#32
Ira NZ Bombs away! Err...landing Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Upper Hutt, New Zealand Posts: 1,542	I know, I've read it. Again, all hearsay, no first hand experimentation.

Nov 04, 2009, 06:38 PM	#35
avoidingexpert Registered User Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Brevard, NC!! Posts: 68	I was thinking that once they were frozen you could shoot them in the head at this time, while they are immobile ( in a leisurely type fashion ) Better safe than lunch!

Nov 05, 2009, 07:34 AM	#36
Pudknocker71 Cake! Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Debary, Fl. Posts: 1,960	I think the scenario would center more around grave hards and hospitals anyway. Cops, national guard would be able to handle the majority of it. I was just thinking. What would a Tazer do to them? How about a couple of paint balls to the face. Oh!... a machete! How about a replica sword? Or samori sword? Lopping heads off might be fun.

Nov 05, 2009, 07:37 AM	#37
Pudknocker71 Cake! Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Debary, Fl. Posts: 1,960	This might be a good idea. I really am spending too much time on this thread.

Nov 05, 2009, 10:30 AM	#38
ashdec87 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Chicago suburbanite Posts: 5,396	lol ya this thread is fun tazer wouldnt do much. They might fall for a moment from the initial shock, but since they dont feel pain it wouldnt keep them down. However, maybe filling a shallow ditch with like an inch of water and passing some voltage through it might be kinda funny.

Nov 06, 2009, 11:41 AM	#40
ashdec87 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Chicago suburbanite Posts: 5,396	un-dead coalition..lol If you live in a cul-de-sac or something you could make fences around the perimeter of the properties, making a sort of fortress and you'd have a huge 'safe-zone' in the middle.

Nov 06, 2009, 12:34 PM	#41
Pudknocker71 Cake! Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Debary, Fl. Posts: 1,960	I wonder if they'll make a vaccine? Of course the government would have most likely started the whole mess.

Nov 06, 2009, 04:34 PM	#43
ashdec87 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Chicago suburbanite Posts: 5,396	ya by definition a zombie is already dead and then reanimated. So really the only cure there is a 9mm to the head..lol trying to bring them 'back' would be like trying to raise the dead...lol

Nov 06, 2009, 05:46 PM	#45
Pudknocker71 Cake! Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Debary, Fl. Posts: 1,960	OK...Night of the Living Dead is the wrong movie I'm finding out. I was just googling it and it wasn't it. What's the movie with the Brains thing? Teens in a morge. Zombies attacking. 2 die and become zombies. Police show up and the zombies attack. One of the zombies gets on the police radio and says Send more Cops. ??????