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Dec 27, 2003, 06:00 PM
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Hello,
Some time ago i bought a plan from vth.de for a trainer like plane. It's a one meter wingspan plane with a speed 400 direct drive engine. By now i have finished the fuselage and rudder. I'm planning to add ailerons. My plan is to get rid of half the dihedral and using barn-door type ailerons from about 12% of the wing. My question is: Will this work? Does anybody have any recommendations or tips or websites about this subject? greetz and thanks from Holland, Joost van Asten |
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Dec 27, 2003, 06:01 PM
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Bruce Bretschneider
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I did a similar thing to a .40-size (60" span) parasol wing tainer and
hinged the ailerons at the top edge. This gave me the same effect as differential ailerons. There was no sign of adverse yaw when we flew it. It surprised the test pilot. Bruce Bretschneider Joostt wrote: > Hello, > Some time ago i bought a plan from vth.de for a trainer like plane. > It's a one meter wingspan plane with a speed 400 direct drive engine. > By now i have finished the fuselage and rudder. I'm planning to add > ailerons. My plan is to get rid of half the dihedral and using > barn-door type ailerons from about 12% of the wing. > > My question is: Will this work? > Does anybody have any recommendations or tips or > websites about this subject? > > greetz and thanks from Holland, Joost van Asten > |
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Dec 27, 2003, 06:01 PM
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Bruce Bretschneider
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I did a similar thing to a .40-size (60" span) parasol wing tainer and
hinged the ailerons at the top edge. This gave me the same effect as differential ailerons. There was no sign of adverse yaw when we flew it. It surprised the test pilot. Bruce Bretschneider Joostt wrote: > Hello, > Some time ago i bought a plan from vth.de for a trainer like plane. > It's a one meter wingspan plane with a speed 400 direct drive engine. > By now i have finished the fuselage and rudder. I'm planning to add > ailerons. My plan is to get rid of half the dihedral and using > barn-door type ailerons from about 12% of the wing. > > My question is: Will this work? > Does anybody have any recommendations or tips or > websites about this subject? > > greetz and thanks from Holland, Joost van Asten > |
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Dec 28, 2003, 03:00 AM
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"Bruce Bretschneider" <brucebr1@cox.net> wrote in message news:3FEDBB06.70109@cox.net... > I did a similar thing to a .40-size (60" span) parasol wing tainer and > hinged the ailerons at the top edge. This gave me the same effect as > differential ailerons. There was no sign of adverse yaw when we flew > it. It surprised the test pilot. > > Bruce Bretschneider > > Joostt wrote: > > > Hello, > > Some time ago i bought a plan from vth.de for a trainer like plane. > > It's a one meter wingspan plane with a speed 400 direct drive engine. > > By now i have finished the fuselage and rudder. I'm planning to add > > ailerons. My plan is to get rid of half the dihedral and using > > barn-door type ailerons from about 12% of the wing. > > > > My question is: Will this work? > > Does anybody have any recommendations or tips or > > websites about this subject? > > > > greetz and thanks from Holland, Joost van Asten > > > I did exactly the same thing on a 3 channel Aeronca Champ trainer some years ago. You should be fine. |
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Dec 28, 2003, 03:00 AM
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"Bruce Bretschneider" <brucebr1@cox.net> wrote in message news:3FEDBB06.70109@cox.net... > I did a similar thing to a .40-size (60" span) parasol wing tainer and > hinged the ailerons at the top edge. This gave me the same effect as > differential ailerons. There was no sign of adverse yaw when we flew > it. It surprised the test pilot. > > Bruce Bretschneider > > Joostt wrote: > > > Hello, > > Some time ago i bought a plan from vth.de for a trainer like plane. > > It's a one meter wingspan plane with a speed 400 direct drive engine. > > By now i have finished the fuselage and rudder. I'm planning to add > > ailerons. My plan is to get rid of half the dihedral and using > > barn-door type ailerons from about 12% of the wing. > > > > My question is: Will this work? > > Does anybody have any recommendations or tips or > > websites about this subject? > > > > greetz and thanks from Holland, Joost van Asten > > > I did exactly the same thing on a 3 channel Aeronca Champ trainer some years ago. You should be fine. |
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Jan 05, 2004, 06:01 PM
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"strathboy" <strathboy89@xpdoshus.com> wrote in message news:<vvgvckrrmpu992@corp.supernews.com>...
The only > way to make a safe turn is with co-ordinated rudder and aileron and NOT one > or the other. Aileron or rudder only turns are "skids" and are prone to > spins at slow speed. An aileron-only turn is a slip, the opposite of a skid, and is safe but inefficient flight. Dan |
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Jan 06, 2004, 03:00 AM
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Dan Thomas wrote: > "strathboy" <strathboy89@xpdoshus.com> wrote in message news:<vvgvckrrmpu992@corp.supernews.com>... > The only > >>way to make a safe turn is with co-ordinated rudder and aileron and NOT one >>or the other. Aileron or rudder only turns are "skids" and are prone to >>spins at slow speed. > > > An aileron-only turn is a slip, the opposite of a skid, and is safe > but inefficient flight. > > Dan Don't forget to feed a little elevator in to keep the nose from dropping and going into a spiral. RCFlyr sed that!!! d:^) |
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Feb 11, 2004, 06:01 PM
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Robbie and Laura Reynolds
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> >somthing,just tell me what i missing here. > > You are not missing anything. > It'a easier to build strip ailerons. Doesn't take as long or as much skill to > build as barn door ailerons. Just build a wing and add on the ailerons. > Easier to build, and less adverse yaw. On certain airplanes barn door ailerons require the use of coordinated turns, where you use the rudder with the ailerons. |
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