Originally Posted by Elios000
both of the ones you want are not for starting out in scale as they both need a raised tail
imo take a look at a MD500 or some other heli that doesnt need modded frames frist
In general I would agree, but it is completely depending on OP's mechanical and building skills, and I have seen multiple examples of people using a raised tail heli as first scale project and getting it right without too much hassle.
If you are not the most talented mechanic or builder, however, I would indeed strongly advise against the raised tail models....